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Newbeeee
01-29-2005, 07:00 PM
Anyone have a F-350 with a 5.4 v8. I am looking to see if this engine is good enough for what I need it to do. I want to plow snow and pull a dump trailer. I am wondering if this engine will work. Price is why I am looking at this engine in a used truck and the cost of gas prices are horrible in NY. Want a diesel but at 2.35 a gallon I just can't do it. Thanks

Currier
01-29-2005, 11:08 PM
Seems like that is the engine I have on my 3/4 two wheel drive. It does fine pulling an lawn mowing equip. trailer. The gas mileage is 11-12 mpg. It has worked well for me but I wonder how it will hold up with larger loads.

Scag48
01-30-2005, 01:48 AM
Get a diesel

PLM-1
01-30-2005, 02:31 AM
If you go diesel you will offset the cost of fuel with mpg. Loaded and unloaded...but especially loaded.

mdb landscaping
01-30-2005, 09:42 AM
we have one. wish it was a diesel, but it is a strong motor and i plow snow with it. has a 9 foot curtis plow on it, and it tows a 22 foot open landscape trailer with 3 riders and a walkbehind all day long. it definately has plenty of power.

lwcmattlifter
01-30-2005, 10:42 AM
I would say go diesel but repairs are more expensive when they do occur although you cant beat the low end torque of the diesel. What about a V-10? I have a buddy that gets 10-14 mpg from his. II doubt that the 5.4 will do that much better.

1bsman
01-30-2005, 01:20 PM
For starters, I'm replying as an f250 owner, but the answer will still apply. My '02 has the v8, 3.73,4x4, and the manual 5 speed (actually 6). I can pull a 773 Bobcat at a steady 75mph (not advocating, just stating a fact). At no point has it felt underpowered, but it is a very thirsty motor. Usually between 10-13mpg. I also have an '04 f250 diesel 4x4 with a ts auto. Yes, there is a immense difference in torque. As far as mpg, I see 14-17 consistently whether trailering or not. I got our f700 stuck in some deep mud last month after a snow thaw and the '04 was my first choice for a recovery vehicle. Although I have no complaints with the gasser, when I replace it, it will be with a diesel.

DKinWA
01-30-2005, 03:23 PM
I've heard a lot of folks try to justify diesels on cost of fuel and it just doesn't pass the red face test where I live. Right now I'm driving a 95 F250 4X4 with 5.4L, 5 speed manual, and 4.10 rearend. I haven't checked my mileage for some time, but I used to regularly get 17 mpg and occassionally 18 mpg on the highway (I drive for fuel economy). When towing and hauling in stop and go traffic I'd get around 12 mpg and no lack of power.

I've done plenty of number crunching with our fuel and vehicle prices here and I can't make the diesel pencil out for me based on fuel cost and economy. I just looked at edmunds.com for truck prices and compared the same F250 with 5.4L and 6.0L diesel and the diesel added $4,335 to the price tag which is a lot of fuel. Using some quick numbers, it'd take over 4 years for me to see a difference in fuel costs. If you want to check my math, here's the variables I used which seem reasonable to me. 40,000 miles annually, current fuel prices in our town right now of 1.819/gas and 2.119 diesel with average mpg's of 5.4L/12 and 6.0/17. I also took into account the additional cost of the diesel engine. The way I figured it, I'd rack up 160,000 miles before I'd see any fuel savings and I'll probably be looking to replace it.

I'm not saying don't buy the diesel, but realize they aren't the deal a lot of folks would have you believe. My next truck will probably be a new diesel becasue of the increased torque issue and not based on fuel cost. Used trucks are different, so run some numbers and see what you come up with. Your numbers will obviously be different from mine, but spend some time playing with the variables and see which option is really best for you. Sorry for the long reply, but I hope it helps.

PLM-1
01-30-2005, 04:48 PM
Consider resale as well. The gasser's value is gonna drop like a rock when miles get added and the diesel's used prices don't change as drastically.

I am fixing to buy a New GMC Diesel because it will be cheaper! Used cost nearly what a new one is. BUT they still sell them!

You have to remember 75k on a diesel is just getting broken in. Gassers are going WAY down hill reliability wise as well as their life expectancy.

ghostgunn
01-30-2005, 06:46 PM
DO a search on www.ford-trucks.com - they have plenty of experinced ford truck specialists on their forums..Just an idea..

Stinger
01-30-2005, 10:56 PM
It depends on the size and capacity of the dump trailer you want to pull.

Scag48
01-30-2005, 11:10 PM
We didn't buy our diesel for fuel economy, if you want a fuel economic vehicle buy a car. We bought the Powerstroke because we will tow 30,000 pounds occasionally and about 15,000 pounds regularly. Try that with that gasser, it won't handle that for too long.

DKinWA
01-31-2005, 09:58 PM
I may be wrong, but I doubt most folks (including the original poster) want to pull 7.5 tons in a dump trailer behind a pickup on a regular basis. If he's looking to pull a couple yards of mulch, dirt or cleanup debris, the 5.4L will handle it fine.

BTW, pulling 15 tons behind a F350 is a lot to ask of a pickup. When I put the D4 on my equipment trailer, I'm pulling about 12 tons behind my F800 dump truck and it takes some effort to stop it even with air brakes. I can't imagine what stopping 15 tons behind a F350 is like and don't know if I'd want to. I do know I wouldn't want to pay for the overload ticket if I got caught driving it :eek:

bnrhuffman
02-01-2005, 05:50 AM
OMG!!
15 tons behind an F350. Im glad youre all the way out in Washington.
I once saw a SRW F350 pulling a tag a long equipment trailer with a full sized backhoe on it (probably over 20000lbs total) and considered calling the cops to get him off the streets.