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scraper69
02-04-2005, 11:15 AM
whats a fair wage... im in MICH.. for a lawn care laborer.. starting wage... little experience.. just curious..

mastercare
02-04-2005, 02:50 PM
I started working for someone else in 1997. Very large local company that paid me $7.5 to start with no experience. Over 4 years moved up to $12. I was summer help only (4 months) while I was home from school. People who worked year round got paid slightly better, and had benefits.

That was 8 years ago, but the company also paid more than average at that time. I would say for a younger, brand new guy: $8 to start. With good experience, start at $9-10. And, give raises as they prove themself.

scraper69
02-04-2005, 05:34 PM
thats what i was thinkin... $10- max.. get a CDL.. $1.00 raise... and maybe $1.00 over the summer if show improvement

scraper69
02-04-2005, 11:38 PM
just talked with the guy.. hes actually a freind.... worked with me about 7 years ago - for one year... knows basics.. but we talked about all he would be doing ---and then came the salary.. he starts out by saying.. well i make $15/hour now.. (hes a painter--"paints houses for a small company) and i really cant afford much less than that...his bills and all" so i say well... youve been there for 5years... you cant just start somewhere at top pay.. you gotta grow... So i sell him on the Unemployment issue in the winter.. he likes the idea of only workin 8 mos.. and gettin unemplyment.. but still cant see that i have to start him at the MAX .. $11/hour.. than 12 after 60 days and if he gets a CDL in the fall... $13... and each year increase... thats pretty good pay in my eyes.. "is it not?" let me know your thoughts... Thanks

scraper69
02-04-2005, 11:40 PM
ohhh also... hes affraid to start over basically.. and he really hates painting.. and the grind of everyday smelling paint fumes and lookin a white walls.. but its casual work... you know "breaks.. they only work 9-3 or so... very laid back and easy work.. but he really hates that trade???? need to know what to do... i know if i had him.. he could be potential Long term employee....??

LLCO
02-04-2005, 11:56 PM
I think that LawnAndLandscape did a study on this by region. I am not sure that Lawnsite will let me post a link there but it is on thier website.

scraper69
02-05-2005, 10:34 AM
gotta hire someone .. just dont know about another $15 guy.../??

Turf Medic
02-05-2005, 11:46 AM
just talked with the guy.. hes actually a freind.... worked with me about 7 years ago - for one year... knows basics.. but we talked about all he would be doing ---and then came the salary.. he starts out by saying.. well i make $15/hour now.. (hes a painter--"paints houses for a small company) and i really cant afford much less than that...his bills and all" so i say well... youve been there for 5years... you cant just start somewhere at top pay.. you gotta grow... So i sell him on the Unemployment issue in the winter.. he likes the idea of only workin 8 mos.. and gettin unemplyment.. but still cant see that i have to start him at the MAX .. $11/hour.. than 12 after 60 days and if he gets a CDL in the fall... $13... and each year increase... thats pretty good pay in my eyes.. "is it not?" let me know your thoughts... Thanks

If the guy makes $15 hour year round and you are planning on paying him $11 hour 8 months, and then cut back to unemployment for the winter. IMO all you are going to accomplish in this deal is the loss of a friend. He might think the unemployment sounds great now, but when they come to take his vehicle because he is making less per year and can't make the payments. He is going to be pi...d at you not himself for agreeing to the cut in pay to change jobs.

scraper69
02-05-2005, 02:12 PM
sounds right... but i just cant afford to pay $15 this year .. sure maybe by the end of next year.. he would be at 15 if hes running a crew>.../

Woody82986
02-05-2005, 03:51 PM
I don't have any employees and thats the way I like it, but I just can't see paying anyone $15 per hour starting wage, unless he comes equipped with a CDL, has a few years of experience running a crew, and you have a crew ready that he can run. Maybe after some time, $15 would be ok, but not a starting wage.

scraper69
02-05-2005, 07:09 PM
I totally agree.. 11/hr is good pay.. to start... sht i know guys start you out at 7./hr

Turf Medic
02-05-2005, 07:29 PM
Oh it might be good pay considering, but the problem you have is his impression of good pay after he is standing out in the sun a few weeks. What you end up with is a disgruntled employee, and that is like inviting cancer to come stay a while. Same reason why large companies will not hire a person for a wage that is significantly less than their previous job, even if they are changing to a field that historically pays less.

scraper69
02-05-2005, 07:52 PM
This is so true....

scraper69
02-06-2005, 10:03 AM
Just really need a good long term employee?? hard to do

paponte
02-06-2005, 10:25 AM
We atart at $10.00hr. A laborer generally makes between $10 - $14hr., while a foreman makes $15.00+ per hr to start. :)

scraper69
02-07-2005, 02:19 PM
what about salary guys. any of you pay salaries?