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twins_lawn_care
02-14-2005, 09:41 AM
I just wanted to post a small experience that happened over the weekend, and how I thought about it. I think it is worth the read...

It was saturday morning, about 8 am, and we start hearing drilling, and pounding. Our kids are up at 6:30, so the noise doesn't bother us. They are looking out the window, amazed at the man from a small business fixing a garage door on our neighbor's place. Well, we go along eating breakfast and getting dressed as normal, and our kids keep watching out the window at the "garage man" so they said. Well, it's time to go to grandma and grandpa's house, so we head outside. We told the boys we'd walk over and show them the "garage man" so they could say hi. So we walked over, and said hi to him, and he was very polite. He obviously knew our boys were fascinated by all the tools he had out, and the work he was doing, and he took a couple minutes out to show them what he was fixing and talked to them. Seemed pointless to many people walking by, but he made our kids day, and for that, he made a great impression to me.

The reason I say this, is to stess company image, no matter what you do, mow lawns, or fix garage doors. Because of what happened that morning, if I ever needed garage door work I couldn't do myself, I sure as heck will remember the "garage man" and the time he took out of his day, and would call him.

I am sure this carries over in to how we treat our customers, and potential customers, and people in general. Sometimes we concentrate on all the heavy marketing ideas, and the best deals to get this printed here, and how many thousands of flyers we can get out, and forget about the simple things that make a huge difference.

I for one will be trying to concentrate on the simple things this year, as well as other marketing and advertising, and thought I'd share some insight that I had this weekend. I truly believe it is something people will always remember when they see the TWINS Lawn Care logo, and that is our goal.

Billpa
02-14-2005, 12:35 PM
Good post.

here’s another long winded post on the subject.
I also try to take the time to say hello to people while I’m out on the job. I know most of us are always trying to keep are time down at the properties but a little small talk or just a simple hello has paid off very well for me with my costumers, their guest, neighbors and passers by. The only disadvantage I can see to this is occasionally you may find it hard to get away from someone but that is rare for me, most people see you have a job to do and let you get back to work quickly.

Like said in the post above we’re always worrying about our advertising but what could be better than a simple conversation to make a personal connection with someone, a little chit chat and hand them your business card and get back to work . How much do you spend on advertising to obtain each costumer? If your charging $60 per hour for your work and you spend two minutes talking to someone that’s only $2 if you turn them into a customer. I know two minutes here and there would ad up but you may only spend a few seconds saying hello or how about the weather and in most cases it eventually leads to them saying hey I’ve been thinking about doing this and that what would you charge, now I have then turned the neighbor or whoever into a costumer for next to nothing.

I also have skills in other areas such as siding, windows, roofing and so on which I will do in the long winter months to keep money coming in and talking to people also allows me to pick up work in these fields. So you say you don’t offer any of these or other services, well do you know anyone that does that you would recommend? If so you could probably work out something with the other business for the referral, a small fee 100 or $200 or maybe a percentage which could be much more on a large job and as long as you know these people do a good job you’ve now created a better bond with the homeowner and now they always think of you first when they need landscaping .

Simple but very effective payup

cantoo
02-16-2005, 09:21 PM
twins, I'm just being a smart azz but was the guy being paid by the job or by the hour? We always try to keep up a good image too. Very seldom does a week go by that we don't let someone try out our Walker for a few feet. After proper instructions of course.

specialtylc
02-16-2005, 10:28 PM
NOT wanting to be the GARAGE DOOR MAN is exactly why I dont do more residential jobs than I have to. I hate to be held up by the owners or the neighbors wanting to chat or wanting extras for free. We are on schedule and time is money. :blob3:

scraper69
02-17-2005, 03:05 PM
exactly. a quick hello, a buisness card and back to work. Seems all "seniors"especially, want to have a social hour. I though of being like a doctor of psychologist, and running a timer, and bill them per minute (like a chat fee) it sucks in residential - but i have to admit , sometimes it can lead to other work. YOu just have to know when to stop talking and get back to work. TIME = $$$$$$$

Billpa
02-18-2005, 11:18 AM
exactly. a quick hello, a buisness card and back to work. Seems all "seniors"especially, want to have a social hour. I though of being like a doctor of psychologist, and running a timer, and bill them per minute (like a chat fee) it sucks in residential - but i have to admit , sometimes it can lead to other work. YOu just have to know when to stop talking and get back to work. TIME = $$$$$$$

usually the seniors that i'm working for are the toughest to get away from, maybe they think because they're paying you it's alright to take so much of your time :rolleyes: i really don't have much trouble getting away from the other seniors. i've gotten a considerable amount of work from this.

Team Gopher
02-18-2005, 08:13 PM
Hi twins_lawn_care,

I for one will be trying to concentrate on the simple things this year, as well as other marketing and advertising, and thought I'd share some insight that I had this weekend. I truly believe it is something people will always remember when they see the TWINS Lawn Care logo, and that is our goal.

This is why I think you are going to have a great year this year and many more in the future.

dvmcmrhp52
02-18-2005, 08:32 PM
Word of mouth is absolutely the best.
Your experience is one to strive for.
Consider this, for the few minutes it took the "garage door man" to say a few words,he has grown his business.

Simply by being human.

jasonnau
02-18-2005, 08:48 PM
My company's slogan is "Serving your Lawn and Landscaping needs on a personal and professional level". This has been the first year of my company, and I know we all have a job to do, but, I am a talker, and love socializing with people. Granted, being my first season, I probably had a little more free time than most of you guys or girls, but, my customers love me for being sociable with them. Some of my customers are almost friends. I don't hang out with them, but I enjoy a quick conversation. Doing good work is one thing, but actually being liked by your customers seems to be my key to success. Probably 30% of my business last year came from referals. Almost everyone refered me to someone, and some of my customers refered me to 4 or more very good customers. We all want to get our job done quickly, but I'm a little happier at the end of the day knowing my customers appreciate me. I'd bet the garage door guy is very successful in his business.

PR Fect
02-19-2005, 01:16 PM
Twins, we where asked to "spray" a set of condo's. One time application. As I was walking back to my truck after the application, I stopped to pick up some litter and a small tree branch that the wind had knocked down into the driveway. This is not our job, some other LCO takes care of the place. The manager of the association, seen me pick up the stuff and throw it in the back of my truck. Because of that, we now are the LCO who takes care of the place.

mtdman
02-19-2005, 02:47 PM
I have made a point of spending more "quality" time with the customers the past few seasons. For the longest time my old partner and I just wanted to get in and out and not talk to anyone. But I've been changing that over time. Some of my meanest, biggest pitas have turned into great customers just because I take a few minutes to stop and say hi. That might not be what everyone wants to do, and that's fine. But I also don't want anything to do with big commercial jobs and what goes along with that. Whatever suits your needs and niche, I say.

The other thing is, with so many lawn companies that do just come in and blow through the lawn and leave, being more personable sets you apart from the rest. There are at least a dozen lcos in town that can be faster than me, and probably cheaper than me. I need something to set myself apart from them, and make my services worth more. Better appearance, a more professional demeanor, and real customer service is where it's at for me.

It also promotes customer loyalty. When the new guy in town comes around promising cheaper rates, what keeps the customer loyal is the other stuff you do like customer service. Is that new guy going to take the time to stop and ask about your knee operation you had last month? Is he going to remember where you buried your last dog and take the time to comment about how the flowers you planted there look nice? Will he remember your children and grandchildren or family info? Most likely not. He's going to come in, rip through the lawn and get the heck out asap, and the crew of guys he's got there isn't even going to know your name. There's a major difference there, and I like to focus on that.

:D

newbomb
02-20-2005, 05:40 PM
First there is no better advertising than word of mouth. If you develop good repore with your clients, you will get more work, period. I have enough young clients who are at work all day and those yards I can roll through. I always take a few minutes to speak to my older retired clients if they are home. Having one happy old lady for a client is better than having a thousand fliers out. She will tell the world about you in glowing terms and when you gain a referal from her there will be little if any haggling on price.

-Paul

CuttingCrew
02-21-2005, 11:46 AM
Time spent talking with my customers is time well spent. As long as you don’t let it drag on so long it begins to affect productivity.

If you develop a personal relationship with your clients, they are far less likely to price shop or drop you over a few dollar increase. If you bring something personal to the table and involve their feelings in the business relationship, you’ve got a long-term customer.

However, this is a double edge sword. You may find yourself holding on to a less than profitable client and not raise their price when you should because you like them so much. Now you have a personal attachment to them!

We are in the service industry. It pays huge dividends to have some kind of relationship with our clients other than a name in our billing software. If we are doing it right, they are our best source of new, solid leads.

Mike

lary
03-17-2005, 12:05 AM
I just wanted to post a small experience that happened over the weekend, and how I thought about it. I think it is worth the read...

It was saturday morning, about 8 am, and we start hearing drilling, and pounding. Our kids are up at 6:30, so the noise doesn't bother us. They are looking out the window, amazed at the man from a small business fixing a garage door on our neighbor's place. Well, we go along eating breakfast and getting dressed as normal, and our kids keep watching out the window at the "garage man" so they said. Well, it's time to go to grandma and grandpa's house, so we head outside. We told the boys we'd walk over and show them the "garage man" so they could say hi. So we walked over, and said hi to him, and he was very polite. He obviously knew our boys were fascinated by all the tools he had out, and the work he was doing, and he took a couple minutes out to show them what he was fixing and talked to them. Seemed pointless to many people walking by, but he made our kids day, and for that, he made a great impression to me.

The reason I say this, is to stess company image, no matter what you do, mow lawns, or fix garage doors. Because of what happened that morning, if I ever needed garage door work I couldn't do myself, I sure as heck will remember the "garage man" and the time he took out of his day, and would call him.

I am sure this carries over in to how we treat our customers, and potential customers, and people in general. Sometimes we concentrate on all the heavy marketing ideas, and the best deals to get this printed here, and how many thousands of flyers we can get out, and forget about the simple things that make a huge difference.

I for one will be trying to concentrate on the simple things this year, as well as other marketing and advertising, and thought I'd share some insight that I had this weekend. I truly believe it is something people will always remember when they see the TWINS Lawn Care logo, and that is our goal.


I think you are right for sure! Also as seen in the posts I know that some of the folks are concerned about collecting at the door also and waiting for the check to be written. But the time spent waiting for the check is not wasted. I find that that time also give me the opportunity to upsell other services and oh yse! to collect the banana bread from the retired lady or gateraid from the other retired lady or estimating the new garden beds for the retired and disabled fella and so on My theory is that time spent on the customer you already have is like money in the bank invested. takes more money to get a new customer than keep an existing one ........

Time invested is neve time wasted! Larry

HOOLIE
03-17-2005, 12:55 AM
Talking with the customer and neighbors makes a positive, lasting impression, and is most definitely a form of advertising. If it doesn't get you many referrals, it will still most likely build customer loyalty.

Anyway, if you're not a people person, you probably won't go far in a service industry like ours.

wannabee
03-17-2005, 12:13 PM
i think the point is well made , we all know about the "garage man" and that is the point . 3 minutes spent shooting the breeze may turn into several hours of work someday .