PDA

View Full Version : Cleaning out Valve Box


coastallandscapesolutions
02-14-2005, 12:18 PM
I just completed a 3 day seminar on irrigation. One of the round table discussions revolved around how to clean out an existing valve box that has been back filled with dirt and debris, maybe over time or in-proper install. I was floored that this was such a problem.

I explained what we use on the coast and everyone looked dumbfounded.... kinda like they had been hit with a 2X4 while watching a pair of headlights coming at them.

So I thought I would share this with you all. We use a little 2.5 gallon wet/dry vac. It sucks water, dirt, mud, sand, and whatever else may be there.

It's just what we do here at the beach. Maybe some of you can make use of the idea too.

SprinklerGuy
02-15-2005, 08:45 AM
Have done that...but such a hassle.

Now I use my "suck tube".

Huh?


I take a hose, regular water hose with a high pressure nozzle...and I stick it in and around the pipes and wires and valves...with the water on of course. This makes sort of a slurry of mud and dirt and rocks etc.....I keep doing it until valve box is full of muddy water.

Then I use my large siphon...my "suck tube". It is a giant hypodermic needle sort of a thing, made with 2 inch pvc pipe...works great. In fact, I use this for many things...sort of a hand pump.

boy are the valve boxes clean when I'm done.....

WLC
02-15-2005, 09:01 PM
SWeeeeeTTT!!! :drinkup:

JB926
03-23-2005, 11:27 AM
how did you make the suction pipe thing?

SprinklerGuy
03-23-2005, 01:07 PM
I didn't make it...I bought it...and I can get you one also....they are about 45 bucks apiece and come in two sizes...ones is about 36" long...and one is about 16" long....let me know...I can get you some.

jerryrwm
03-24-2005, 12:11 AM
Also use a Beckson hand pump. They run about $45.00. Sure beats the hell out of a Big Gulp Cup!!

Broker
03-24-2005, 08:47 AM
Is that Beckson design similar to other designs or is there a benefit?

jerryrwm
03-24-2005, 09:25 AM
Not a particular reason for the Beckson - use the one with the 6' hose.
It is available at several supply houses and it works real well.


http://beckson.com/pumps.html

Broker
03-24-2005, 09:52 AM
Thanks for the website, we have a couple of those. Do you ever have the problem of the flexible pipe coming out of the pump.

SprinklerGuy
03-24-2005, 12:34 PM
Here is what I was talking about....it can be used for other things also.

It has o-rings on the tip and different sized nozzles...this is helpful when sucking crap out of a lawn head that you just installed...you can remove the cap and leave the body of the lawn head, this thing seals right up to the head and you can suck all the dirt/rocks out of the head without removing it and without flushing it and making a huge mess.

Remove all the couplers from the tip and you can suck larger debris out of the valve box area after you have used the water hose to turn it into a slurry.

Use it to break up clogs in a line...many many uses.

Critical Care
03-24-2005, 01:53 PM
Every summer I guide a few whitewater rafing trips where we use these hand pumps like the one that tony shows above for water wars. The pumps with the flex hose on them also work great for bailing water out of some rafts, canoes, etc.

When I'm not waging water wars on other people, I use my Rainbird hand pump for its primary purpose. These things sure are handy when tapping into a homes existing water service line, which is usually a few feet down in the ground in this area. Before I got the hand pump I was often faced with a deep muddy hole in the ground. The water wouldn't perculate out fast enough, and I'd get pretty impatient because of the homes water being turned off. So there I would be with Jerry's Big Gulp Cup, my head down in that muddy hole with my other end sticking up. I can't tell you how old that gets.

JB926
03-31-2005, 07:52 AM
Sprinkler guy,
WHERE CAN I GET ONE OF THOSE "SUCK TUBES" ACTUALLY 2 OF THEM. I HAVE SEARCHED AND ONLY CAN FIND THE BECKSON PUMPS. CAN U GIVE ME A PHONE # OR A WEBSITE. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE

MATT

Broker
03-31-2005, 07:59 AM
It is kind of sad that I am looking forward to keeping hoses and a shopvac in a service van inorder to try to clean out a dirty manifold box.

coastallandscapesolutions
04-03-2005, 11:32 AM
It is kind of sad that I am looking forward to keeping hoses and a shopvac in a service van inorder to try to clean out a dirty manifold box.


Here is what I use. I can also use the battery for the impact wrench to change blades in the field. If I can clean it out dry I would rather work with that then wet mud and sand. Most of what we pull out is sand anyway.

SprinklerGuy
04-04-2005, 09:51 AM
See other post.

bicmudpuppy
04-11-2005, 11:46 AM
Thanks for the pic.....I thought I knew what you were talking about cuz the local supply house sells one that has an opening that has an ID perfect to hold a piece of swing pipe and an OD that fits 3/4" poly. I like the looks of this one better. What brand is it? FYI, I usually keep a spare around that I haven't filled with mud, rocks, etc. and the kids like to steal it when they head for the pool...............

tomcl
04-12-2005, 08:53 AM
That is a Dewalt Vacuum--It runs on 18 volt battery(about 15 minutes) or it uses 110vac. They work great--too bad that it doesn't charge the battery when it is plugged in--They're less than a Benji at Home Depot, etc...Not including a battery...
I can get you a suck tube for around $40 plus shipping.