View Full Version : post it notes????
touhey33
02-17-2005, 08:54 PM
Has any one done this, I am thinking of ordering post it notes to use instead of fliers, and door hangers. They would have Business name, services, contact number and maybe a slogan. Seems like a good idea, just want to know if anyone has done this, and what type of return rate you got.
Mo Green
02-17-2005, 09:06 PM
Never tried it. Doesn't sound like a bad idea. Let us know how it works for you.
stumper1620
02-17-2005, 09:12 PM
Has any one done this, I am thinking of ordering post it notes to use instead of fliers, and door hangers. They would have Business name, services, contact number and maybe a slogan. Seems like a good idea, just want to know if anyone has done this, and what type of return rate you got.
after thinking about it for a bit, that seems like a pretty good idea, you could put them anywhere and everywhere, no more doors with no way to hang.
On the gas pumps at the bank machine the list is endless.
i think i will check into that too. :waving:
touhey33
02-17-2005, 09:17 PM
Here is a web site i found through browsing the internet.http://www.design-a-pad.com/
stumper1620
02-17-2005, 09:33 PM
Here is a web site i found through browsing the internet.http://www.design-a-pad.com/
thanks, not bad pricing. :waving:
LightningLawns
02-17-2005, 10:41 PM
I just ordered 500 of them, They look real good
touhey33
02-17-2005, 10:47 PM
How much did you pay, and can we see a pic of them. thats 500 x 50 per right, which is 25000 cheaper and more to hand out, i think i am going to go for it.
tinman
02-17-2005, 10:52 PM
I read that Sean or another sucessful member used the post it idea when he was building his biz.
Jason Rose
02-17-2005, 11:15 PM
I went out on a limb and ordered 500 of my own tonight too! man touhey33 ought to ask for a cut from post-it! I'd show you all my design but i'll wait a day or 2. kinda busy right now... Thanks for the link, it was exactly what I was looking for, and the price was real great!
touhey33
02-17-2005, 11:22 PM
What did you pay for the 500
Jason Rose
02-17-2005, 11:27 PM
Just under 50 bucks for 500. I got the 4"x6" . You can get up to 24,000 if you need! If you order over 50 dollars worth you get free shipping too. Mine are supposed to be here in 15 days.
LightningLawns
02-17-2005, 11:30 PM
I bought 10 pads which is 500 sheets. I paid about 32$ or something like that with sipping and everything. They offer free shipping if you buy a certain amount. I thinks its like over 50$ they give you free shipping.
LightningLawns
02-17-2005, 11:40 PM
post it note .gif
LightningLawns
02-17-2005, 11:42 PM
how do you guys like it?
touhey33
02-18-2005, 12:00 AM
Looks good, did you find it difficult to use the design template.
Petr51488
02-18-2005, 12:00 AM
You sure they won't fly off in the wind?
1MajorTom
02-18-2005, 12:04 AM
You sure they won't fly off in the wind?
not a chance. if you are in doubt, buy a regular post it note pad at walmart, stick them on your door, leave them there for a week, and they won't move.
gogetter
02-18-2005, 12:14 AM
There's a thread on here somewhere by our lovely moderator Jodi with an example of their post it's.
I think it's a good idea, although I personally wouldn't be sticking them on gas pumps and bank machines as mentioned. It's kinda like stapling or taping signs to poles on corners, looks unprofessional IMO.
My only concern about using the post it notes on doors is whether they stay on. Jodi says in that thread that they don't blow or fall off, but I guess I'm not 100% convinced (no disrespect Jodi!).
If they really do stay, they sure would be easier and faster to put out then flyers and door hangers.
Maybe I'll just get a small amount to try.
Mclaughld
02-18-2005, 12:16 AM
Instead of a normal post=it. See if they make them with the sticky on the top and bottom. That way the dont curl up.
Mclaughld
02-18-2005, 12:17 AM
Instead of a normal post=it. See if they make them with the sticky on the top and bottom. That way the dont curl up.
I dont know where that = sign came from. I blame the original poster.
1MajorTom
02-18-2005, 12:21 AM
My only concern about using the post it notes on doors is whether they stay on. Jodi says in that thread that they don't blow or fall off, but I guess I'm not 100% convinced (no disrespect Jodi!).
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oh come on Jonathen, you know this is such an easy thing to test out... just buy a cheap pad of post its yourself... you know what they say......
seeing is believing
gogetter
02-18-2005, 12:41 AM
Alright, you sold me Jodi!
BTW, here's that other thread in case anyone's interested:
http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=54874&highlight=post+notes
walker-talker
02-18-2005, 10:22 AM
I dont know why a printer don't sell full color post it notes, I think they would be a hit!!
The landscaper
02-18-2005, 10:42 AM
I was wondering myself, if these would professional on someones door?
tonygreek
02-18-2005, 11:01 AM
for you guys doing this, if you've previously done door hangers or flyers, be sure to track the leads so you can compare effectiveness. i'm curious as to the instant throw away rate vs. saving a flyer/hanger/postcard. i'm not sure why, but i have this vision of them being thrown away quicker. maybe it's the reflex i have to scan a post-it stuck on my office door and instantly chucking it.
now, 4 color.... walker, that's intriguing as hell just for the visual difference.
touhey33
02-18-2005, 06:01 PM
I don't know if anyone else is interested but i am ordering mine today, and they are 15% of, just thought i'd let you know because they weren't on sale yesterday.
Team Gopher
02-18-2005, 07:55 PM
Hi LightningLawns,
I like your slogan "We'll be there in a flash." That is fantastic.
Here is another post it not design idea you can download from here (http://www.gophergraphics.com/forum/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=1;t=942;st=10).
http://www.gophergraphics.com/forum/iB_html/uploads/post-1-18430-post_it_1.gif
N.H.BOY
02-18-2005, 08:07 PM
man-o-man I just went on that post-it-site and man was that easy to do and fun. Very simple and to the point. I like it and thank you again for the people who put this info on this thread. Thanks :waving: :waving:
touhey33
02-18-2005, 09:05 PM
finally made mine, plan on ordering 5000. I am buying the graphic from turfmarketing, tell me what you think
Smitty58
02-18-2005, 09:30 PM
touhey33- looks good but before you order better spell check. "receiving"
Nice design.
stumper1620
02-18-2005, 09:45 PM
for you guys doing this, if you've previously done door hangers or flyers, be sure to track the leads so you can compare effectiveness. i'm curious as to the instant throw away rate vs. saving a flyer/hanger/postcard. i'm not sure why, but i have this vision of them being thrown away quicker. maybe it's the reflex i have to scan a post-it stuck on my office door and instantly chucking it.
now, 4 color.... walker, that's intriguing as hell just for the visual difference.
they may stand a chance of being stuck on the refrigerator instead of under a pile of papers or in the trash. never know until its tried
Smitty58
02-18-2005, 09:47 PM
I really like this idea. What about sticking them on cars at the local grocery store or mall? Anyone tried that and if so what kind of response did you get?
touhey33
02-18-2005, 09:55 PM
Your right its receive not recieve.
LightningLawns
02-18-2005, 11:23 PM
touhey33 those look great, how much will those be? I'm going to see what kind of response I get with the little ones I bought and maybe i'll go with something bigger like that. This seems like a real good idea for advertising, its different, I think thats why I like it so much.
touhey33
02-19-2005, 12:25 AM
I paid 85 dollars and got 2000, also got a t-shirt basically for free because i didn't have to pay shipping if i spent of a certain amount.
Anthony-MB
02-19-2005, 04:20 AM
I did something like this last year
Instead having post-its printed, I made my own by taping my ad onto the post-it-notes (time consuming? yes)
Only did 4 streets in my hood - but got 7 response and 3 sign up, another one signed up after 2 months
I think people are far more reponsive to post-its. their friendy :)
many see flyers and doorhangers as junk ads and before they even read it thier already have negative attitude.
Hodge
02-19-2005, 08:30 AM
How do you get a logo uploaded to their server? Have tried 6 times and after I locate the file on my machine and post it under browse where is the upload button? :rolleyes:
tonygreek
02-19-2005, 03:06 PM
smitty, placing anything on people's cars is an amazingly fast way of irritating people, as well as the shopping center owner who'll be picking them up off the lot. add in the fact that, even thought it's a harmless adhesive, i would almost guarantee you'll get more of a response of people screaming at you on the phone than asking for your service.
flyers on people's cars has been addressed on here many times and i can't recall anyone providing positive feedback.
Smitty58
02-19-2005, 04:52 PM
Anyone have first hand knowledge of what tonygreek is saying. He makes a point, but what is the difference in having a post it note stuck on your drivers window vs one stuck to the front door of your house. If I came out to my car after a day at the mall or in the grocery and saw a post it note on my glass I can't imagine going postal. If I didn't need the service I'd just wad it up and stick it my pocket to throw away later. I'm sure that there would be those who would throw them on the ground though.
Tom Gs
02-19-2005, 05:01 PM
No, your marketing idea is going to fail. I would suggest a 4-color, tri-fold professionally developed brochure.
Soupy
02-19-2005, 05:04 PM
Anyone have first hand knowledge of what tonygreek is saying. He makes a point, but what is the difference in having a post it note stuck on your drivers window vs one stuck to the front door of your house. If I came out to my car after a day at the mall or in the grocery and saw a post it note on my glass I can't imagine going postal. If I didn't need the service I'd just wad it up and stick it my pocket to throw away later. I'm sure that there would be those who would throw them on the ground though.
The front door area of a home is usually the place people receive all correspondence. It just seems natural to have a message left there. The window of a car would seem like an intrusion of space.
Personally I wouldn't even stick these things on front doors, but if some of you say it works, great. Seems a little unprofessional to me and if I was the one receiving it that is how I would feel. I wouldn't want anything stuck to my door. I'll stick with a full color door hanger. I guarantee you if my door hanger is hanging next to one of the post it notes (and they could only call one of us). I am going to be the one that gets the call. Even if they do call both, the full color door hanger is going to have the best first impression (then again the post-it note might blow it for both of us). But if you need cheap advertisement, then post-it notes would be the way to go I guess.
Smitty58
02-19-2005, 05:13 PM
Soupy - good pts. I agree it isn't the most professional advertising. We are currently running a professional ad ,but this seems like a unique idea that I think could work if used in the correct manner. I have had customers who have said they didn't want a big commercial outfit to take care of their yard. So I think it could be effective. I would think sticking a few on the bulletin bds at your local stores would work. Any other ideas?
Soupy
02-19-2005, 05:49 PM
Soupy - good pts. I agree it isn't the most professional advertising. We are currently running a professional ad ,but this seems like a unique idea that I think could work if used in the correct manner. I have had customers who have said they didn't want a big commercial outfit to take care of their yard. So I think it could be effective. I would think sticking a few on the bulletin bds at your local stores would work. Any other ideas?
I'm sure it does work. A few have said they have had success with it and I'm not going to doubt them. I'm sure you can get some response with a flyer made with a black magic marker. I was only saying that it isn't the most professional way and will probably have a lower response rate. But it is cheap.
walker-talker
02-19-2005, 05:53 PM
Toughy....looks good, but first mowing for free? Are they signing a contract....I hope so?
jajwrigh
02-19-2005, 06:05 PM
I have tried them before. They are nice because they are easy to attach to doors and they take up little space. The customer return on them is about like flyers or doorhangers. Remember there is no magic way to gain a ton of business overnight, but at the same time you have to start somewhere.
touhey33
02-19-2005, 06:23 PM
Jajwrigh,
You are in pretty much same area as i am, what kind of rates did you charge when you mowed, Also are you close to Noblesville, because I only do not do fert and pests, and could recommend you to customers if you want.
1MajorTom
02-19-2005, 07:29 PM
Seems a little unprofessional to me and if I was the one receiving it that is how I would feel. I wouldn't want anything stuck to my door. I'll stick with a full color door hanger.
So hanging something from a door is more "professional" than sticking something to a door?? :confused:
Soupy
02-19-2005, 08:15 PM
So hanging something from a door is more "professional" than sticking something to a door?? :confused:
Door hangers are made to go on a door. Yes, they are frowned on too by some. But door hangers are more professional then any other means of advertisement when placing it at the front door. Flyers rolled and stuffed in the door is acceptable, but less professional. I wouldn't mind a flyer because it is something that is more common. I wouldn't want anything stuck to my door, even though the adhesive isn't going to hurt anything it seems a little rude to me.
I'm not saying that it doesn't work. Not all people are uptight like me. Some people don't mind phone soliciting either, but I hate it. Sorry I confused you Jodi :dizzy:. I was just giving my opinion.
Smitty58
02-19-2005, 08:25 PM
Come to think of it, if the UPS man or USPS misses you on a delivery they will stick a "sorry we missed you" or something like that on your door. I never thought of that as un-professional.
Soupy
02-19-2005, 09:18 PM
Come to think of it, if the UPS man or USPS misses you on a delivery they will stick a "sorry we missed you" or something like that on your door. I never thought of that as un-professional.
You make a good point. Can't really argue that except. These companies have already proven themselves as professionals. People would not have the same response from the UPS man that they would from a total stranger. The UPS man can do this without a shred of hesitation. Can you say the same? Can you 100% say to yourself that people will not be bothered by this approach. I can't even say that about door hangers which have no purpose in this world except to be placed on a door.
To top it off, it would be more professional for these companies to leave a door hanger. Some of them do use this method. I believe Fed Ex uses hangers. These guys aren't necessarily fighting for work like guys in our industry are. Every little advantage helps. Is post-it notes 100% unprofessional? No. Is it as professional as a door hanger? No. That's all I am saying.
1MajorTom
02-19-2005, 09:46 PM
Is post-it notes 100% unprofessional? No. Is it as professional as a door hanger? No. That's all I am saying.
That's like saying Ford is better than Chevy, McDonalds is better than Burger King... what is your data to back up that statement? What market research have you actually done to be able to establish this?? Have you ever even used a post it note?
We have for 6 years, and you would be amazed at the small businesses that have called us, and asked us how they too could go about getting post it notes for their business. Closet organizer businesses, carpet cleaning businesses, car detailerships, house cleaners all have called us telling us what a cool, out of the box idea it was. Two even hired us.
It's all about opinon, but I may just be a tiny step ahead of you when commenting on this post..... cause we've actually used the product that we are discussing.
Smitty58
02-19-2005, 09:56 PM
OK, now we're getting somewhere.
1MajorTom- you have 1st hand exp. with these right? So how do you use them? On the front door of houses, on cars at the mall, on bulletin bds, what tell me what! I think this is a really unique idea, I ordered some last night and can't wait to get them. However soupy has me paranoid about sticking them just anywhere. I don't want a bunch of irate callers.
So PLEASE tell me just what methods you have tried.
thanks,
1MajorTom
02-19-2005, 10:22 PM
I do not believe in sticking them to cars, infact I don't think any sort of advertisement shoudl be left on cars whether it be flyers, post its, business cards etc.. Why waste your time putting them on cars when you don't even know what property you are targeting?
You want good properties, ones that are going to be profitable, ones that are in your service district... putting them on cars doesn't tell you any of that.
Stick with homes, that way you can selectively target the nice neighborhoods where you want to work in.
We live in an area with a high population of elderly, which is good and bad. Good because the older folk are really great in paying their bills on time, but bad because we have a high turnover rate due to death and moving into senior citizen homes. So because of that, we have to continually advertise to stay ahead of the game. Besides word of mouth referrals, post it notes has been the major reason we have been able to pick up so many customers. We stay right around 100 customers each season.
I can honestly say we have never had one irate caller.
We have however walked into many homes to do an estimate, and we have found our post it note stuck to the refrig.. how many fliers or doorhangers make it to the frig do you think???
Smitty58
02-19-2005, 10:25 PM
Thanks, good point on the cars. That has got to be a great feeling seeing your post it on a customers fridge. I think I'll target some subdivisions and post away.
thanks again for your help.
Soupy
02-19-2005, 11:53 PM
That's like saying Ford is better than Chevy, McDonalds is better than Burger King... what is your data to back up that statement? What market research have you actually done to be able to establish this?? Have you ever even used a post it note?
We have for 6 years, and you would be amazed at the small businesses that have called us, and asked us how they too could go about getting post it notes for their business. Closet organizer businesses, carpet cleaning businesses, car detailerships, house cleaners all have called us telling us what a cool, out of the box idea it was. Two even hired us.
It's all about opinon, but I may just be a tiny step ahead of you when commenting on this post..... cause we've actually used the product that we are discussing.
I believe if you go back and read my post, you will see that I stated that this was my opinion. I'm glad you think a post-it note would give a better impression then a full color door hanger. How many full color door hangers have you used? I'm all ears, I would love to hear about your research. I publicly stated that this is how I would see it as a consumer. Nothing more, nothing less. Did I say once, it wouldn't work? I'm sorry if my opinion upset some of you.
Would you say it is Ok to post-it a car if you owned a car wash and was targeting cars and not properties?
I think it is great that some of you are thinking outside of the box. To clarify, This is just my opinion. Hopefully the majority of your potential customers will have a different opinion. If I was going to try something like this. I would take a quick survey in my area. I would stand out in front of my local grocery store and ask 50 or so people what they thought of the idea of coming home and seeing a post-it note on their door vs what ever option you might have.
I started my business years ago by putting flyers on car windows. I got a really good response rate for the time and effort I put into it. Now that I have been doing this for awhile, I wouldn't use this method. It doesn't fit in with my business today. But for you guys wondering about that method, It did work.
By the way, I have also heard success stories on this forum about guys throwing baggies full of rocks with an advertisement in it onto the driveway. Just throwing out some other ideas to explore.
gogetter
02-20-2005, 12:25 AM
It's kinda funny how everybody has there "cut off point" as to what is ok, and what isn't.
I guess in the end, just do whatever you're conscience tells ya, and as long as it works for you (and I mean REALLY works, not fooling yourself into thinking it works!), then keep doing it and forget what others say.
P.S. and make sure it's legal!. :-)
LightningLawns
02-24-2005, 05:28 PM
just got my post it notes in today and they look great!! even got 100 for free!
touhey33
02-24-2005, 09:33 PM
I hope when i get mine i get some free ones.
mikestr
02-25-2005, 01:43 PM
just got my post it notes in today and they look great!! even got 100 for free!
How long did it take to get them from when you ordered them?
LightningLawns
02-25-2005, 03:05 PM
about a week or so, not long at all. I would recommend getting them, mine are the size of a business card.
The landscaper
02-25-2005, 03:10 PM
How much did you get them for and how many total? where at?
touhey33
02-25-2005, 06:12 PM
Here is the website www.iprint.com
turfsurfer
02-26-2005, 09:44 AM
Alright, I have been following this thread a little bit so here's my 2 cents. My plan is a little different. I have 12,000 post-its that should be here by Monday. I have been thinking of an inexpensive way to get my name out a little more and drive people to my website. Direct mail (too much for what I want to do), Doorhangers (ALOT of legwork), newspaper inserts (most just get thrown away when seperating the paper from the ads). So my solution is to have the fully printed (2 color) 3x5 notes stuck on the front page of the local paper here. I figure they are guaranteed to be noticed way more than an insert or a classified ad, and at about 9 cents each for the printing and sticking on the newspapers very cost effective. This is not my only promotion, but part of an overall campaign. What do you think?
Soupy
02-27-2005, 12:27 AM
Alright, I have been following this thread a little bit so here's my 2 cents. My plan is a little different. I have 12,000 post-its that should be here by Monday. I have been thinking of an inexpensive way to get my name out a little more and drive people to my website. Direct mail (too much for what I want to do), Doorhangers (ALOT of legwork), newspaper inserts (most just get thrown away when seperating the paper from the ads). So my solution is to have the fully printed (2 color) 3x5 notes stuck on the front page of the local paper here. I figure they are guaranteed to be noticed way more than an insert or a classified ad, and at about 9 cents each for the printing and sticking on the newspapers very cost effective. This is not my only promotion, but part of an overall campaign. What do you think?
That sounds like a great Idea. I like it :)
Watkinslawnservice
02-27-2005, 12:18 PM
I have seen that before, must work because I always look at it.
Anthony-MB
03-03-2005, 05:41 PM
the other day my local newspaper was advertising subscriptions by using post-its within their paper. It's a unique method as many business just don't think of using it.
sleepyhead
03-04-2005, 02:11 AM
Well I must say this is a very interesting thread. I'm over in the irrigation forum. But instead sticking the notes everywhere. You could use the top with your name and logo then give them out to your custmers when you hand them the bill. Kinda like a scratch pad.. My .02
Shane Scaife
03-04-2005, 12:50 PM
Ok I have read all the posts about NOT putting flyers in mailboxes. Now with this idea (Post-its) is it legal to post them to side of the mailboxes? You could hit a lot of area you otherwise could not walk up too.
Thanks
Shane
Shane Scaife
03-04-2005, 02:44 PM
I just ordered my first 500. We will see. For the price what do I have to lose?
Soupy
03-04-2005, 02:44 PM
Ok I have read all the posts about NOT putting flyers in mailboxes. Now with this idea (Post-its) is it legal to post them to side of the mailboxes? You could hit a lot of area you otherwise could not walk up too.
I always ask the mail carrier in that neighborhood. I have yet run into one that has said no. The only thing they ask is not to block the door or use the inside. I was told the law was to keep mail carriers from getting blamed when the rent money etc. came up missing out of a mail box. If the mail carrier is not in the area then I would not touch the mail box without permission.
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