Exmark questions

[Vibe Ray]

Aren't the new "no springs" seats supposed to be on the 2000 and later models of an exmark? Mower is 44" Lazer HP 19 Kawi. My dealer said it was a 2000, yet it has the older seat. Does this mean it is really a 1999 or is the newer seat only on the 2001's? How can you tell the year of an exmark? Is it written somewhere? The list price is $6,499. would the list price go down if it were a 1999 as opposed to a 2000?
Another question is that he said the 44" Lazer Hp was too small to put the foot assist for the deck lift on. is this true? Can you not order one and put it on a 44" HP?

[Administrator]

Why don't you use http://www.TurfMfg.com and ask a eXmark representative directly?

[T-Bone]

Vibe Ray

If I remember correct when I was looking at them last year
they just bolt on and the dealer told me that they didnt think it was necessary. But something you may want to think about would be the 52 inch deck. Your trimming ability is greater, or that is your back tires won't be in line with the edge of your deck and you can get closser to things as you turn. Makes less trimming.

Just my thought.

[Randy Scott]

I believe the seat you're talking about is the " full suspension " seat. It's standard on the EPS units and optional on all other mowers. My dealer gave the same info. on the foot assist, the bigger the deck gets the harder to lift manually, that's why they're on the 60" and 72". Go to their website and look it over for sure incase I'm wrong about something.

[Vibe Ray]

Guess what guys? I just found out the answers to my questions on Exmark's website! Still wonderin' how much that new seat(not the suspension seat, but the "no springs" seat) is gonna go for (cost)....Anyone know?
The "no springs" seat is standard on all 2001 models and the foot assist is only for full size Lazers. I just wanted it to lift deck for scalp prone areas without having to take my hands off the control levers.

[Edited by Vibe Ray on 02-03-2001 at 09:12 PM]

[Randy Scott]

Don't qoute me, but close to $400 or $500, I know it was a ridiculous amount because to get a regular 60" Lazer vs. a 60" EPS was not much more than the cost of the seat alone.

[Mike Felices]

The standard seat usually sells for around $300.

[jaybee]

This is what I don't understand about this seat. I've got a 27hp LC Lazer waiting for me at my dealer with the regular seat. The full suspension seat is $500 more. If the standard seat cost $300 you would think if you substituted the full suspension seat in it's place it would only be $200 more. Not the case. It's $500 more no matter what. Does this make sense?

[Mike Felices]

That is just what I wanted to do with my dealer. Give him an extra $200 and he can put on the Suspension Seat for me and keep a brand new regular seat that he will be able to sell to some guy with an old Lazer that needs a new seat because the old one is torn to shreads. Instead my dealer said he'll put a Suspension Seat on for $500 and keep the standard seat for payment of installing the Suspension Seat. Yeah right! That or install the Suspension Seat yourself and if you do it wrong your warranty is void. They are gong to make money off of you any way that they can. I say get the mower with the standard seat, and use it for a month. If you are fine keep it, if not then buy the Suspension Seat, and install it yourself. Keep the regular seat and sell it to some guy who wants a new one for $200.

[lee b]

NO!!!

[Mike Felices]

What in the world are you saying NO to?

[jaybee]

I guess I'm not the only one who thinks the pricing of this seat is ridiculous. When you order a new truck and upgrade the tires you get credit for the tires that are already on the truck. Should be the same with the seat. It should be installed at the factory and credit given for other seat. In the meantime the standard seat is going to be just fine as I find the standard seat on the Lazer I now have to be just fine.

[Randy Scott]

I think lee is saying no to the last question in jaybee's response.

[awm]

Dont sound to me like exmarks has as good dealer
support as ive heard.

[lee b]

I was saying NO!!! it doesn't make any sense that a dealer won't work with you. If the standard seat costs $200.00, then it should be worth that much as a trade-in on the deluxe seat. I can't understand why the deluxe seat is that high, you can buy a new air seat for a semi for that kinda money. The dealer is selling take-off seats at new price and getting them for free.

[jaybee]

Once again I'd like to say that my Exmark dealer is a real small dealership and I don't think they've ever sold a seat for a Lazer seperatly. I can understand them not wanting to have a supply of seats. My real issue is with the factory in that the suspension seat is not offered from the factory in the 27hp LC but comes standard on the 26hp EPS.

[TLS]

Vibe Ray,

What you are asking about is not the suspension seat. Exmark came out with (2001) a standard seat that has no internal (in the cushion) springs. They replaced the old thick spring in cushion seats prior to 2000.

This new seat IMO is a POS. It is hard foam glued to a sheet of plywood and wrapped in vinyl. Same for the back rest and arm rests...all foam to plywood and wrapped and stapled. Give me the old sprung seats anyday. DONT upgrade your old spring seat to this one. Its a downgrade not an upgrade.

Whatever they charge you for this suspension seat, it IS worth it. Yes they are very expensive and overpriced, but make mowing comfortable. They take no more than 20 minutes (with coffee breaks) to install yourself. The Lazer line is a rough riding mower (compared to a Dixie) and will jar your back all day long with the standard (new no springs) seat. Your dealer is right, he doesn't HAVE to trade seats. He knows that nobody wants these new seats, so why should he? Take the old one and make a stool out of it! Thats what I am doing.

The deck lift is a $40-$50 option, unless you buy an EPS or a 72" deck (standard). Don't know whether or not it will fit the HP series? I havent looked at the lift bracket that it bolts to on an HP to see if its the same as a fullsize Lazer. If it fits...buy one, it IS worth it.

Why go with a 44" deck? Do you have 46" gates to go through? Go with a 48" or better yet the 52"(best combo). The 52's are as fast as the fullsize and your getting a good Kaw. vertical shaft engine and compact size. The trimmming factor that Ron talked about is absolutely a big issue with the 44's, there's no offset at all.

Hope these experiences of mine help you in your future purchase.