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I hear ya. I have three bids out right now on jobs where we did the design and everything. They didn't want to tell us the budget before hand. So we just designed it based on what they said they wanted and then once they saw the bid proposal for the work, they got a little upset because it was way beyond their budget. So I'm planning on using this trick from now on. It's so frustrating to get all the way through the process only to find out that what you came up with is totally outside their budget. Just a waste of time.
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