I have a relative who is Sales Manager for a major Midwest irrigation company who sells Kichler landscape lighting. My wife works for a huge construction company that buys a ridiculous amount of Kichler interior fixtures and therefore gets their butts kissed by a ton of Kichler folks. Their landscape lighting sales, although having gone up a lot lately, does not compair to their interior sales. And it's not close, I've seen both sets of figures. For those of you who really want to know about growth and market percentage it's not that hard to get figures.