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Old 10-03-2012, 03:38 PM
Mark Oomkes Mark Oomkes is offline
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Originally Posted by JB1 View Post
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Originally Posted by Schrock lawn and land View Post
I have the equip to cover it infact the same equip the run a 60 g3 36 gstand a foreman doing nothing and someone weed eating /blowing the do in in around 4-5 hours I can get reliable employees if I need more also equip if I was to even be. Close to getting the contract yea I can handle 90 day pay stuff being its me my dad and at max 2 other people but does anyone know aculty what dept of such to contact to get the info? Ps valley crest does it now
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Originally Posted by C Jovingo Landscaping View Post
Not tryin to be mean... but if the hospital sees a contract like this paragraph, it would probably go straight into the trash. I can't make sense of some of the stuff above..."infact the same equip the run a 60 g3 36 gstand!?!?!?. Huh? Why would foreman be doing nothing? Do you have enough work to keep new employees busy 40hrs a week? Not gonna find employees that will be fine with 4-5hrs a week that you estimate for the job.

Beat me to it.

Listen to this advice. Spend more time in school learning proper spelling and grammar. Then work on building the business.

Seriously, you sound like an illiterate high school dropout. First impressions are everything and if you can't portray professionalism in your speaking or written communication, you will be laughed off the property.

I like your attitude toward growing the business but need to work your way up to the big stuff. Is this really your dads company & you think you are taking over when 18? I am solo part time with fulltime job & hired my son (20 yrs old) with hopes I could send him out by himself & grow the clients, then quit my fulltime job at some point when there was to much work for him to handle in a week. Right off the bat he was telling friends we were partners & told a friend he would hire him when I quit going out to mow! I had to tell him he was not a partner & I would not hire if there was not enough work that would even keep him busy a full week & once he had a full week I would be quiting my job to grow it to keep both of us busy for a full week. I came to realize I'd prob never be able to send him out on his own & ended up letting him go when drought hit. When I did have my son working, I would not even have thought about going after a hospital. What is your dads opinion of going after the hospital contract? Does he even know your getting advice on getting hospital contract? I could see my son doing this when he thought we were partners, without even consulting me first about what I thought about a contract like a hospital.

Like mentioned in other posts, the hospital would prob not want a 14 yr old working on the property for liability reasons, your company doesn't have the expierience maintaining something this size, you do not already have employees on staff & may be under equipped. I had a friend email me info for bidding Stark Metro Housing Authority properties in my area. She worked there & knew I was doing lawn care, I did not request the info. They wanted to know how long in business, list of equipment, # of employees & amount of time employees have been employeed at the company. They want to see employee stability, not "Oh, I have none & will hire if I get the contract"

You say the company can handle payroll & financed equip for 90 days at start of season. What about materials, like mulch & chemicals. Probably thousands of dollars in mulch & $100's in chemical before first check rolls in. Lets just say 4 man crew... 4X40hrsX$10=$1600 a week, $1600X12 weeks=$19,200(90 days) + $1000's for mulch + $100 for chemicals + $100's for fuel & maybe $100's for financed equip. Do you have that kind of money rolling in from current accts in 90 days to cover these expenses? Does not make good business sense for a father/son LCO, IMHO!
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Excellent advice all the way around. Listen to it Schrock.

Originally Posted by Patriot Services View Post
Lots of luck getting it away from Valley Crest. You won't underbid them unless your guys work for free.
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And you beat me to this one.

Chances of underbidding a company like VC or Brickman are slim to none. If you want to stay in business anyways.
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