Originally Posted by retrodog
XP with 36hp Vanguard 61" is $8399, add the ROPS for $299, and you are at $8698 retail.
Ok, I admit, the Ferris rides a little better than the xp but not by much. Add the Grammer MSG/65 to the Bad Boy when ordering which in turn rides better than the ferris (only if ferris doesnt have same seat which is a $650 upgrade to $10182) and that puts you at $8998 total.
Ok pump size, the Ferris has BDP-10A-432
HYDRO-GEAR MODEL#: PG-3GAQ-NZ1X-XXXX Which unless I am mistaken is a 12cc pump same as the xp, but just in case its the 16, lets put the 21cc pumps on the xp for you as an upgrade, and add $800 to your mower price which is at $9798 now, yeah $200 more, but look at the package, more hp, better pumps, deck, etc.
The deck is 5 guage metal which is nearly 37% stouter than any deck in the market, pair it with the 4 rail 11guage 2x2 frame, the swing out design and the bb which is the easiest mower to work on in the market, add the new spindle design, the cut (which is already getting known as having one of the best striping capabilities without using a roller) the new 12 design which improved the capability to handle tall grass more, and the dual reservoirs on the hydros, which prolly arent as good as the new oil cooler on the Ferris, but gotta be dang close and nicer if oil gets contaminated....
Gives you a 21cc pump, 36hp Monster with a $1100 retail seat on it for $9789, paired with the 2 year commercial parts and labor warranty should give the 3100 a runnin for the money...
I had Ferris come by a couple of times with the program, and even last years pricing puts the 3100 at $12000 retail, i know most mower companies retail dont mean anything like cars, but I know some people that paid $11000 for the 31 anyways, If I was the bb dealer you came and asked for a demo with you would've had the demo (in fact I honestly have 6 demoes out right now as I am typing this through Thursday as I am going to the BB meeting till then...) along with "what could I do to earn your biz speech" and "what do you hate about the mower" so we can customize, and you would've walked away in our hat and tshirt and our customer for life even if you hated the BB (which I have never had anybody actually hate any mower, its always small things people would like better...), we are a pretty diversified dealer offering Hustler and Grasshopper too which both have the ability to ride close to the same or better than the Ferris too with some add-ons if thats the cup of tea the customer is looking for...
Retro I really wish you were my dealer. No dealer I know of would change out pumps for a customer. Look I like BB only if bought from you. Realistically from all the disasters I've read about sounds like BB the MFG can't be trusted.
If I still lived in OK I would make the drive to buy from you. Last I checked ROPS were selling for 600 locally (canton Ohio).
I bought my Ferris last year before the price increase but I think apples to apples there is no savings like you and BB claim. I haven't priced out new ones lately but if any Italy be a couple hundy. Anyhow, there is no comparing a suspension seat with a suspension frame. I'm going to try to set up a demo to check this deck out. Like I said, I like BB, just not the dealers or the support from BB.
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