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Old 11-07-2012, 12:48 PM
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We are all dependent on fossil fuels. As Kiril said, "off grid, self sufficient" will work, to a point. We carry 60 gallons of propane, so can last quite some time, but if Safeway/Trader Joe's is down for an extended period, we're screwed, just like everybody else.
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