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Old 01-20-2013, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by phasthound View Post
It's been explained several times on these forums how active compost tea and some of the bottled microbial products are important tools to improve nutrient availability on demand of the plant rather than a calendar timed application of synthetic fertilizer, fight diseases and improve drought tolerance while reducing pesticide usage and nutrient runoff. I've made no claims that these are miracle cures which replace sound cultural practices. There is no one time fix when managing turf, it's an ongoing process whether it is biological or chemical.

When using chemicals, the cultural practices are not as important because then it is possible to grow grass even on concrete, but there are health and environmental consequences. Cultural practices become more important when working to improve soil health and being able to grow healthy turf with less detrimental inputs. Adding the appropriate microbiology will over time improve the soil and over time less applications are required.

It's unfortunate that you are unable to understand the difference between a biologically active system and a chemical approach. There is nothing superficial about understanding soil microbiology. There is much to learn and it is rather complicated. Science is just barely scratching the surface.

I would rather not participate in circular arguments. If you wish to learn more find a way to take some classes from people who have used these methods successfully. Since you're in Wisconsin, I suggest you visit http://www.greaterearthorganics.com/ and call the owner Bob Posthuma. Have an in depth conversation with him regarding the successes he has seen. I hate to type.
Plz, don't take this personally... but this is NOT really about you product line... this is ONLY about soil health... Soil Health, and the Cultural Practices being meaningless terms in these discussions...

You like to say that this has been spoken of many times before... but may I say that :
"... When using chemicals, the cultural practices are not as important because then it is possible to grow grass even on concrete, but there are health and environmental consequences. Cultural practices become more important when working to improve soil health and being able to grow healthy turf with less detrimental inputs. Adding the appropriate microbiology will over time improve the soil and over time less applications are required. ... " tells us nothing of the habitat between beneficial microbes and pathogenic microbes...

It is speech that is often referred to by those who can see diversion from the "Real Issue" as ,,, you guessed it,,, Diversionary Tactics...
My point is,,, and will continue to be,,, that what youtry to call educating the listener is nothing more than empty platitudes using meaningless cliches...
Again,,, I'm not trying to be offensive,,, so plz don't tell me that I can't understand the difference between healthy/synthetic soils... "Synthetics are NOTeven at issue here... Microbial Habitat(whether beneficial or pathogenic) is the ONLY issue here...

So - What's the difference???
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Now that I know that clay's texture(platelets) has nothing to do with water infiltration, percolation, or drainage
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