Originally Posted by metro36
I have been considering upgrading from my GMC 2500 w/6.0 to a diesel, to handle my larger trailers better. I found a good deal on a 2012 Ram 2500 with the Cummins. The only thing holding me back is the GVW and payload. The Dodge has a 5500lb front, 6000lb rear, the gvw is 9000 and it is rated to haul 2100lbs. Now a GMC diesel 2500 has a 5200lb front, 6200lb rear, the gvw is 9900 and the payload is 3100lbs.
My question is, what is the reason behind the ram only having a 9000lb gvw? My current 2500 has a 9500lb gvw and the payload is 3500lb. Its very rare that I will be hauling over 2100lbs in the bed but I like to have the capacity. I have a 200 gallon skid sprayer which would take up the payload when full (I usually only fill it to 100 gallons but I might need it full in the future). Can someone explain why ram made the gvw what they did? It seems to me like the truck could be a 9500 or 9900lb truck.
Dodge, similar to Ford, has a payload option. Ford has many options such as snowplow prep, camper/rv, etc. Dodge 2500 just has the snowplow prep to my knowledge that increases front GAWR by a few hundred pounds. It's not much, but enough where it counts to increase the useable payload. You'll have to look at the weights listed on the door jamb sticker. You can get a 2500 ram with a 9900lb gross. If the truck doesn't have the above mentioned packages, the weight of the diesel engine over the gas eats into the useable payload capacity.
Another way to look at it, is that GM used to do what Dodge has almost always done. If your 6.0 gas truck had a diesel engine in it, gross weight would be the same (perhaps a 400lb increase to 9900lb would have been optional at the time) but you would lose 600lbs of payload due to the added weight of the engine. Ford alters their GVWR depending on cab type, box length, drive type, etc. It seems a bit sketchy to me considering it's the same style frame for their F250 line. Anyway.
A gas truck with a 9K gross seems more viable, as it would have close to a 3K lb payload. Ford and their F250, has a 10,100lb gross truck. It lowers gas engine HP, but diesel HP remains the same. Again, depends on options. With more people wanting trucks as personal grocery getters, manufacturers lower gross weight to allow for a better ride quality - which says a lot with Dodge products as they can be harsh at times (I know) compared to say, a similar spec GM truck. If you look at the full size G series vans, there are two GVWR for the 2500; 7800lb and 8600lb. The G3500 grosses at 9600lb, and the 1500 at 7300lb.
Besides, if this guy with a 3.5L V6 Intrepid can pull an airstream trailer (with a WD hitch), anything is possible. I saw the ad last fall and had to scan it! he's only about 3 - 3.5 tons over GCWR