Thank you for the link, i will check it out now. I sat with the property director tonight and he was ripping on me about giving him 200 choices of fountians to choose from. Lol. I suggested bubbling rocks over vases or columns, and he was receptive and told me to pick them for him. I'm going to pick a supplier tonight and hopefully get my pricing set. I'd like to not eat it on the profit if I can help it.