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Old 09-28-2013, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dboyd351 View Post
Is that why we wanted valves in these things?
Originally Posted by dboyd351 View Post
I've read a few of your posts on here and I respect your efforts to help others, so this certainly isn't a criticism of you personally.
But, I'm not a fan of the 4-mix machines. I bought an FS 90 a couple of years ago and almost immediately regretted it. Not only is it fairly expensive to purchase, but, for my purposes, it is heavy, cumbersome and overly complicated.

Just so I understand this correctly... As well as others that come to gain information here...

The machine runs fine, but it was expensive to purchase, it's heavy/cumbersome and overly complicated?

Well, I'll assume that you have an FS90R which would have retailed between roughly 269.95 - 299.95 (ish) 2 years ago?

Even if your "purposes" have changed in the 2 years since you purchased the unit, the unit is NO more heavy or complicated then it was the day you purchased it?

The Husky 223L I replaced it with is far lighter, better balanced and easier to use and maintain.

Ok, so the Husqvarna 223L is lighter, I get that... Better balanced, I get that... What I don't understand is how the Husqvarna 223L is easier to "use and maintain"?

I guess my comment was intended to mean putting valves in a trimmer just makes them heavier, more complicated and more expensive to maintain. EPA or not, the competition is getting by without the valves.

I agree 100% with you that adding valves, valve train and cylinder modifications have made the unit heavier... Fact is, it added about 8 oz. to the overall engine weight!

As far as being more complicated? I guess that would be true if one didn't understand engines to begin with. From my view as a tech, there is very little difference between them!

How exactly is a 4-Mix more expensive to maintain than a 2-stroke?

You said the competition is getting by without valves? Not true! You do know that Husqvarna as well as other OEM's make 4-stroke units right?

Again, I respect your opinion and helpful post, I'm just not much for the 4 mix machines.

I mean no disrespect to you by "picking" on your comment, so please don't take it wrong. I like to think it is more of a help to others to explain or backup comments and statements that one makes. Too many threads in my opinion go south and some pretty quick with mis-information, drive-by comments and just plain getting off topic in general.

Secondly, to compare the Stihl FS90 4-Mix to the Husqvarna 223L 2-Stroke is like comparing apples to balloons... Not much in common between them except that they are both trimmers. I mean an F-350 and a Ranger are both trucks too.

Thank you for your time and perhaps one day I may be able to help you!

Jeff in AL

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