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Old 10-25-2013, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Mickhippy View Post
Im personally a sceptic. I believe in the "cycle" theory but, what if Im/we're wrong? What if "we" are partly to blame?
My problem is how can we realistically fix it? Right now we have a heap of large bush fires releasing mega tonnes of carbon. Taxing us isnt going to stop it!
We (Australia) export mega tonnes of coal to China to burn in there coal fired power stations, and they build a new 1 or 2 every week. Taxing us wont stop them from burning coal in fact, we NEED the export money.

Heres a read if interested...

But, I saw this video just yesterday and he makes a pretty good argument IMO.
Yea but you really can't be skeptical about how Coal is polluting China. Here is a article on how Coal is effecting the Chinese people. They have to wear dust mask. One area was shut down last week because you couldn't see past 16' in front of you for the smog. Many forget that large US cities were engulfed in smog. Things have improved now but it used to be really bad. Not as bad as China is now though. Acid rain from coal fired plants have really hurt the water supply there. States here are suing each other over the acid rain issue:

Earlier this month, the central government said it would stop approving coal-fired power plants in more heavily polluted industrial areas.

It also announced a national blueprint to lower the concentration of harmful particles in the air -- much of it caused by the burning of coal -- by at least 10% between 2012 and 2017 levels.

In heavily polluted areas, including China's north, targets will be more stringent. Beijing, Tianjin and Hebei, all signatories to this week's new air pollution control plan, aim to cut particles by 25%. In southern China's Pearl River Delta, across the border from Hong Kong, the goal is 15%.

"We know high-ranking officials really want to tackle the (air pollution) problem but in reality how much does this help?" said Sum Yin Kwong, CEO of the Clean Air Network in Hong Kong, to CNN.

"It all might be more symbolic because when you look at the regional or local level, growth is measured by GDP, not by how environmental the city has become. I'm not too optimistic," added Kwong.

China is the world's largest consumer of coal by volume and will continue to be for years, relying on the fossil fuel for 70-80% of its energy needs, according to various experts and the World Coal Association. Much of that energy goes towards electricity for factories and for winter heating. Beijing says it hopes to reduce the nation's coal consumption to 65% by 2017.

In comparison, Australia draws about 75% of its electricity from coal, according to the Australian Coal Association. The United States generated 37% of its electricity from coal in 2012, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

As people in China have grown wealthier, they have increased demands on the government for a cleaner environment.

This past July, a landmark study by Chinese and international academics revealed that severe pollution and toxic air slashed an average of five and a half years of life expectancy for residents of northern China.

According to a recent Greenpeace report, 83,500 people died prematurely in 2011 from respiratory diseases in Shandong, Inner Mongolia and Shanxi -- China's top three coal-consuming provinces.
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