Thanks ch4x0r seems like both the Snapper and Gravely get good reviews on their cut quality. Just based on specifications and internet posts I get the same impression, Gravely built with a heavier deck. I may end up tossing a coin as I think they would both work out well. Waiting to see if/when my local sales guy gets back on the Snapper price. I did see a used on on Craigslist but at 4200. I'd like to go new and get a warranty.