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Old 03-29-2006, 07:11 PM
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michigan CDL

wondering what the weight limit im michigan is before have to get a CDL. i have 20' gooseneck that holds 14000 lbs. will mainly be hauling like 8000 lbs sometime a little more.
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Old 03-29-2006, 07:45 PM
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If your towing unit GVWR is under 12,000#, and your trailer is tagged at 14,000# you don't need a CDL, but...only if you NEVER exceed GCVW of 26,001# (including cargo + vehicles + dirt clods)

If total combined GVWR is over 26001# you need a CDL
if trailer GVWR tag is over 10,000# AND GCVW is over 26,001# you need a class A cdl

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/registratio...ng/cdl/cdl.htm
The Federal standard requires States to issue a CDL to drivers according to the following license classifications:

Class A -- Any combination of vehicles with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.

Class B -- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing a vehicle not in excess of 10,000 pounds GVWR.

Class C -- Any single vehicle, or combination of vehicles, that does not meet the definition of Class A or Class B, but is either designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver, or is placarded for hazardous materials.


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Old 03-29-2006, 09:36 PM
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I think your correct janb!!!!!
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Old 03-29-2006, 10:32 PM
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may not be completely correct. in CT and most other states from what iv seen the interpretation for towing is. ...

you need a CDL class A if your towing over 10,000#s, no matter what the gvwr of the truck is. applies to even pick ups.

your state laws may vary, but as i have more and more of these conversations it seems to be the same across the US.
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Old 03-29-2006, 10:33 PM
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but in most cases if your towing over 10,000#s then your GCWR will probably be over 26,000#s anyways, so in that case the above post is correct.
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Old 03-29-2006, 10:42 PM
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the CDL requirements are the same in all states. GVWR means groos vehicle weight rating...not what it actually weighs, but what its rated for. i can tell you a laborer where i work got a ticket in a pickup towing a tag trailer RATED for 12,000 lbs, he was hauling 5 wheelbarrows on the trailer. the company sent their lawyer with him to court...they lost. remember that word...RATING.
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Old 03-29-2006, 10:51 PM
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thats correct
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Old 03-30-2006, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by CutRight
thats correct
that's what I had thought too, and what I would suggest (get a CDL w/ CMV trailer over 10k) the fine is $1000 here... if no CDL
The "A" wording allows a bit of subjectivity

"Class A -- Any combination of vehicles with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds"

I had a friend use my trailer and his pickup to take an "A" test, but he had to use his 1 ton, as his 3/4 GVWR added up to less than 26001#, tho the trailer was rated well over 10,000# (triple axle "Eager Beaver" - beaver tail backhoe trailer)

I think RV's are exempt, tho I question why... (they usually have crumby suspension and whimpy brakes... and often very speedy, low experience drivers)
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Old 03-30-2006, 05:02 PM
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I believe the correct weight is 10,000 lbs.
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