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Old 12-30-2006, 01:15 PM
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Rules Question?

After reading the rules of Lawnsite, I have a couple questions:

1. If this site is intended to be "clean", "helpful", and "informative" then why are there so many restrictions on posting information?

2. Almost every rule on Lawnsite seems to be directed at securing a marketplace, but I need to know the information provided by non-sponsered sites that will not affect Lawnsite's marketing procedures. Will this be restricted also as it has?

3. Every internet business focuses on marketing, but at what cost to the members? Are we being deprived of useful posts due to strict policies?

4. There is a fine line between a forum and a marketing blog. Where do we stand on that line?

I love Lawnsite, so don't take this the wrong way. I will always abide by rules set forth on a site. My concern is "who" the rules are for? Are they for us, as represented, or were they developed as a tool to increase sponsership and residual commissions or other profits?

Mods, please do not take this as an attack on Lawnsite in any way. Your site is wonderful and I enjoy being a part of it. Remember that, as companies expand, the members that generate the profits will eventually consider a union to compromise. Eliminating this threat can cause undesirable results. It is most beneficial to appease both the sponser and the people they are trying to reach.
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Old 12-30-2006, 01:53 PM
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bump...bum...bump...will someone please answer this thread instead of moving it and ignoring it?
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Old 12-30-2006, 02:14 PM
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You attitude is getting to be a little much with your recent posts complaining about lawnsite. Yes I relocated this thread to the proper forum, and removed the duplicate thread. I am not ignoring this thread, my little girl asked me to play a game with her "guess who", and that's what i was doing. I respond to threads when I have extra time.

What restrictions? You can't post illegal activities, bad language is not appreicated, and you may not post about other green industry webpages. What's wrong with that? if you are paying for an ad in the newspaper advertising your lawn company, do you also include all the other LCO's in your area and give them a mention in your ad that you are paying for? Do you expect Lawnsite to do the same, give free adveritising to every other lawn forum, lawn webpage, lawn blog that is out there?

Nonsponsors of this site can be mentioned especially when a member has had a good experience with a company. But a member that is trying to plug a non sponsor because he is personally affliated with that company is not allowed. That would be just downright bias then at that point, how exactly would that be helpful to a member?? We are looking for UNbiased opinions.

Lawnsite is free for all that would like to participate.
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Old 12-30-2006, 02:47 PM
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Good post Jodi. Puts things in easy to understand terms! I'm not here to sway anyone to go anywhere. I am a member of several lawn "forums" and participate in all of them. Now if I was to mention that I was a member of one on here, and then invite a few friends to join me there I wouldn't expect me and those who followed to be blocked from coming here and posting! I'm sure that some, like me, enjoy the varity and like the bounce back and forth. I'm not here, there, or anywhere to talk crap on anyone or start trouble though, lol.

I just wonder if the sponsors are keen to the idea of the members they are trying to target being blocked from veiwing and participating in the site when they are paying for everyone to see their advertising? I understand that many weren't here for any sort of constructive reasons anymore though...
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Old 12-30-2006, 02:50 PM
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I understand that many weren't here for any sort of constructive reasons anymore though...
Bingo........
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:23 PM
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Wow dude you are sliding down on my list of favorite members. Are you always so negative. If all you want to do is compain then just leave. Nobody made you sign on and join our little party
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Old 12-30-2006, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE=Team-Green L&L

After reading the rules of Lawnsite, I have a couple questions:

1. If this site is intended to be "clean", "helpful", and "informative" then why are there so many restrictions on posting information?

Not sure what restrictions you are referring to.

2. Almost every rule on Lawnsite seems to be directed at securing a marketplace, but I need to know the information provided by non-sponsered sites that will not affect Lawnsite's marketing procedures. Will this be restricted also as it has?

We do not allow certain things mentioned on this site primarily because of what has gone on with other sites, forums, etc.... working dilligently to flat out "steal" from our site. In the past, it was not a problem - not like it is now. But I think Jodi made a good point - whether this site makes money or not - a lot of time, effort, and money goes into this site and many other sites have decided that instead of deciding to work their way into developing a presence in the industry online, it would seemingly be easier to steal from lawnsite.

3. Every internet business focuses on marketing, but at what cost to the members? Are we being deprived of useful posts due to strict policies?

Deprived....? There are thousands of pages of threads and posts (over 1.6 million actually)...don't see how there could much deprivation.

4. There is a fine line between a forum and a marketing blog. Where do we stand on that line?

This question doesn't make much sense. LawnSite is a forum, plain and simple.

I love Lawnsite, so don't take this the wrong way. I will always abide by rules set forth on a site. My concern is "who" the rules are for? Are they for us, as represented, or were they developed as a tool to increase sponsership and residual commissions or other profits?

How does eliminating people threatening other members, posting porn, etc.... increase sponsorship in any sort of way? It is simple, common decency and the rules exist so that this site remains professional and geared towards people sharing and learning.

Mods, please do not take this as an attack on Lawnsite in any way. Your site is wonderful and I enjoy being a part of it. Remember that, as companies expand, the members that generate the profits will eventually consider a union to compromise. Eliminating this threat can cause undesirable results. It is most beneficial to appease both the sponser and the people they are trying to reach.

I am guessing that since this "issue" is rarely brought up, we are doing the best we can to provide a free place for members to share and learn and also a place for sponsors to be able to be seen by their target audience. Not exactly sure why things have to be read into so much....it's a forum.
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Old 12-30-2006, 06:17 PM
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Good answer Sean. I am satisfied. I have just been aggravated lately since I've seen less information on the "new threads", maybe I am using this site wrong? Is there a better way of locating informative threads without searching for a specific topic and avoiding chat? I must apologize for my negativity lately. I have been dealing with alot and I have noticed it in my last few posts. I will keep myself in line.

It is difficult trying to do too much and I spend a lot of time chatting. I guess I should've been nicer. Sorry everyone!

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Old 12-30-2006, 07:12 PM
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Good answer Sean. I am satisfied. I have just been aggravated lately since I've seen less information on the "new threads", maybe I am using this site wrong? Is there a better way of locating informative threads without searching for a specific topic and avoiding chat? I must apologize for my negativity lately. I have been dealing with alot and I have noticed it in my last few posts. I will keep myself in line.

It is difficult trying to do too much and I spend a lot of time chatting. I guess I should've been nicer. Sorry everyone!
No sweat.... that's what this is all about...
No need to apologize....Happy New Year!
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Old 01-01-2007, 06:54 PM
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I've been around Lawnsite now for about 8 years. And I can tell you I have never had a problem or had those feelings that you mentioned. I've never had someone sensor what I was trying to say. I've never had one of my posts deleted or edited. I've never felt that I couldn't discuss a product that was not one of the sponsors. In fact, we've often discussed lots of different products that were direct competitors of the sponsors.

The fact that lawnsite has sponsors and encourages us toward using those sponsors is something I've come to understand as just business. Someone has to pay the bills related to running lawnsite. And for that we need sponsors. Otherwise, Lawnsite would have failed long ago. I know from personal experience because I used to run my own website (related to banking) several years ago. And it was a great site. Lots of valuable information, tens of thousands of viewers, etc. But as it grew and gained popularity, it quickly grew into a part-time job for me. I was constantly responding to emails, adding new information to the website, handling problems, etc. And this part time job I had created was one that a lot of people were benefiting from but I wasn't making a dime. I didn't have any sponsors and eventually I just had to sell the website and get out of it entirely. I couldn't keep doing all that for free. So I understand how sponsors are necessary for a site like this to survive. And personally, I love lawnsite. So if the money from sponsors helps Sean grow rich, even, I think he deserves it.

I think most of the other rules here have to do with decency (which I really appreciate) and with not having members here recruiting for other lawn-related forums (which I agree with).

Anyway, like I said, I've been here a long time and have never had an issue with any of the rules. I behave myself and I've always felt I could discuss whatever I wanted here without any problems. I think it's as simple as that.
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