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Old 11-20-2009, 02:28 PM
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I am starting a new lawn care business in the spring and would really like some help on what I should purchase? Below is a list of things I already have. What should I buy if I had $10k to spend?

01' Chevy Silverado 1500
John Deere LX172 38" Rider
Stihl BR550 Blower
Stihl 90 Line Trimmer
Stihl Edger
Stihl MS290 Chain Saw
Stihl T81 Hedge Trimmers
Toro Commercial Push Mower 21"
Poulan Backup Line Trimmer

Things that I know I need to purchase is a standon or walk behind mower between 36" - 52" deck widths. Possibly a 60" zero turn mower, atleast a 16" dual axel trailer.

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Mower, should I buy a a ZTR and a trailer and maybe a used walk behind? Or should I buy a nice stander and a walk behind? Or just a nice walk behind? I am going to be mostly just doing residential to start so what should I really go for?

Trailer, I do not have a space to house my trailer so I am thinking I should pick up a used covered trailer 16' + around $3k?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Old 11-20-2009, 07:12 PM
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Welcome to the sight Randy,
Seems like you're on your way, do you have accounts lined up yet, and are you going solo or have employees ready to go?
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Old 11-20-2009, 07:59 PM
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why not start with a used walkbehind mower like a bobcat or scag roughly 32 to 36" and add a sulky to it that way you can ride around the yards. You can find good condition belt driven bobcat 36" wb's for good deals. I have seen them on craigslist selling for 500 dollars and just needed 1 or 2 replacement belts. With proper engine care they can last a forever with just replacing belts. Sounds like you have solid trimmers and a blower but I would add a push blower to your arsenal for leaves and debris.
I have a 4x8 and 5x8 trailer both open trailers. I am going to convert the 4x8 into a leaf trailer for the fall and also use that for mulch jobs during summer and spring. I would go with an open trailer at first until you know as a fact that your going to get enough buisness.
Also, starting with the walk behind you will be able to guage if your going to have large enough lawns where you would need a riding ztr. These are just my opinions.
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Old 11-22-2009, 08:52 PM
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I do have around 12 accounts lined up so far but thats only 4 weeks into marketing. I will be going solo and my retired father in law offered assistance if I need it here and there?

I appreciate the advise and I do think I will be purchasing a walk behind mower. Anymore advise is appreciated.
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Old 11-22-2009, 08:59 PM
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whatever mower you do end up purchasing, if it is belt driven, make sure you keep at least one replacement belt of each one onboard with you in the truck or on the trailer. If one breaks in the field and you have to either go home or to a repair shop, its buying time you could be working. Also, keep an extra spool of trimmer line with you. Goes quick when you slam concrete retaining walls by accident.
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08 Yamaha Wolverine w/ Warn Winch and Plow
5x8 Trailer With Folding Gate and WeedWhacker Racks
4x8 Trailer Converted to Leaf Box Trailer
96 Bobcat 36" WB w/ Dual Wheel Sulky
21" Yardman Push Mulch/Bagging Mower
Echo Weedwhacker
Toro BrushMaster Weed Eater
Redmax Blower
Echo PB500H Blower
Homelite Blower
Troy Bilt 5hp Push Blower
Ryobi Elec. Start Blower- It works and works damn well
Echo Gas Hedge Trimmer
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Old 11-30-2009, 01:49 PM
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whatever mower you do end up purchasing, if it is belt driven, make sure you keep at least one replacement belt of each one onboard with you in the truck or on the trailer. If one breaks in the field and you have to either go home or to a repair shop, its buying time you could be working. Also, keep an extra spool of trimmer line with you. Goes quick when you slam concrete retaining walls by accident.
i have never ever had a drive belt snap and run them till they have deep cuts in them.
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Old 11-30-2009, 01:56 PM
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a walkbehind will be 2-3x faster than your riding lawn tractor and a ZTR will be 2x as fast as the walkbehind. if your think you'll have the work, spend alot of time looking for a sweet deal on craigslist. there are alot of people dumping great mowers on there. as far as a brand, find a good dealer close by and try to get a brand they sell. a good dealer is more important than brand IMO. when it breaks down, you'll need it fixed quick
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Old 11-22-2009, 09:05 PM
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Randy - I cut 10 a day solo to start and really enjoyed the profit with no help. Go solo as long as possible to start. Good Luck!
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Old 11-23-2009, 12:21 AM
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Congrats on the accounts, good work!!
My opinion,
If you are confident that the Deere can last a season or 2, then you have a solid 38" mower already -MAYBE I would pick up a used 48 or 52" WB, depends on how many more you pick up-- At your rate you may be one of those 40-50 account newbies by Spring! But if your solo and the Deere runs well, and you have some money to invest, I might start looking into a good deal on a used 350-550 range dump truck. You have some time so you could catch a good deal if research. An enclosed trailer is the way to go, and 16' is nice. I have a similar setup to yours and I only have a 12' enclosed. If you organize things (racks etc.) the stuff you have now will easily fit. 14' is good too.
I guess my point is that if you have 10K to spend, a dump truck ($6-8K) and an enclosed trailer (14' = $2K) will carry you and all your current equipment plus some material to the job with no added overhead, and at the rate which you are marketing, you can pick up another mower during or after the season. Plus you'll better know what size you should get.
Again, this is just how my mind works so do what you feel is right, but I think for you, a dump is a money maker!!!
Damn I wish I had $10K!!!!!
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Old 11-23-2009, 12:29 AM
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One more piece of advice.........
Leave the father in law out.
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