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Old 11-24-2009, 01:38 PM
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GrandStand: New Height Adjustment

i was looking at the new 36" grandstand picture and noticed the height adjustment is a little different, looks like the handle is on the right side of the machine instead of on the control panel, just wondering about the details...toro, do you have any pictures of this? also why the change?
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Old 12-09-2009, 04:14 PM
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i was looking at the new 36" grandstand picture and noticed the height adjustment is a little different, looks like the handle is on the right side of the machine instead of on the control panel, just wondering about the details...toro, do you have any pictures of this? also why the change?
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Included are photos of a 2010 40" GrandStand (same "chassis" as the 36" model) and a 2010 48" GrandStand. The design of the deck lift system for the 36" and 40" models is different than the system used on the 48" - 60" models, primarily due to space considerations on the small unit (i.e. - less space for deck lift links between the frame tubes, etc.).

The 2010 deck lift system on the larger machines operates essentially the same as the 2009 version, except that mechanical extension springs (visible beside the control tower) have replaced gas springs as the means of providing lift assistance. The extension springs improve longevity and provide the added benefit of adjustability (to vary the amount of lift force required at the handle).

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Old 12-09-2009, 04:41 PM
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In my decision-making process (36/40 vs 48) I am trying to extrapolate dimensions until they are released. Can you tell me, in the photos above of the 36" and 48", are the fuel tanks and the fold-down stand-on platforms interchangeable on each, in other words identically sized? Thank you.
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Old 12-10-2009, 11:21 AM
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mysteryman -
The fuel tank is exactly the same. The size of the operator platform (the area where the operator stands) is also the same, however, the platforms are not interchangeable due to differences in how the platforms connect to the frames.
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Old 12-10-2009, 11:34 AM
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thanks

thanks for the reply, you've answered my question.
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Old 12-10-2009, 04:23 PM
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uh oh, do i see a true floating deck on the 2010 models (chains)?!!!!...if so then i'm pretty excited, just wanted to let u know that...

thanks for the response on this subject, AND you guys also contacted me about the speed issues, i really appreciate that...doesn't look like it's going to be too long until toro is THE best stand-on on the market, things are looking good toro...
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Old 01-23-2010, 06:33 AM
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uh oh, do i see a true floating deck on the 2010 models (chains)?!!!!...if so then i'm pretty excited, just wanted to let u know that...

thanks for the response on this subject, AND you guys also contacted me about the speed issues, i really appreciate that...doesn't look like it's going to be too long until toro is THE best stand-on on the market, things are looking good toro...
Unfortunately a deck won't "float" if

A) it has no antiscalp wheels. It will instead just scalp down to the dirt, at which point the deck edge hits and I suppose it will float some then, but at that point it's scalping the lawn.

B) which I just learned here, the deck is so heavy due to having an engine bolted to it that it will just shave off the turf instead of floating over it even if it did have some sort of antiscalp wheels, which it still doesn't.

You'll still be ok in most situations if you're cutting relatively tall grasses like Tall Fescue, St. Augustine, or Kentucky bluegrass, though. You just have to treat it like you would a fixed deck wb when mowing and not put that deck edge into something thinking it will float over it.

But for Bermuda and Zoysia here, no chance. Toro basically ruled out the machine for an entire region of the country. Oh, they'll sell some. Because some folks don't care about quality of cut all that much. You can mow 2nd tier apartments and office buildings with it. They already butcher them with too-big ZTRs.

And it will be some time yet before we see the effects on the machine of a heavy engine mounted to a deck bouncing up and down all day.
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Old 12-10-2009, 04:33 PM
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one more thing toro, on the deck lift arm i would almost say the smaller units are more ideal than the bigger units strictly because there is less of a chance to catch it on anything like a swingset, which i did earlier this year and bent it all up...the arm as you know looks like an "L" and grabs on to anything that gets under it where as if it was just a straight lever it would either just slip off of it or just raise the deck...just wanted to throw that in there for what it's worth
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Can you please clarify if the engine is now frame mounted instead of mounted to the deck, or not? I would think that would be a complicated thing to engineer, but would allow the deck to float easily.

Other lawnsite threads were debating this.
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Old 01-22-2010, 09:16 AM
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Can you please clarify if the engine is now frame mounted instead of mounted to the deck, or not? I would think that would be a complicated thing to engineer, but would allow the deck to float easily.

Other lawnsite threads were debating this.
Bruce 32 - The engine on all 2010 models are mounted in the same fashion as the model year 2009 design, on the deck.

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