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Old 03-20-2010, 09:17 PM
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I have used some ONE AP as a test, info here!

i got some samples from Tim Kehoe from one ap and have applyed it to my home lawn, my shop and another family members this week. now it has 4 in of snow to water it in!

i will be excited to see how it does in some side by side to our normal program of fert at our shop as one side of our drive is applied with One ap and the other our traditional fert.

i will be taking pics and updating several times this year for all to see and evaluate along with my personal evaluation and opinions. i will get some beginning stages of green after the snow mets away next week(we are already mowing here on some accounts) for you all to see the progress
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Old 03-20-2010, 09:45 PM
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sounds interesting i have been following the other thread about one app let us know how it goes I have been doing a ball field but they only do one app in the spring this would be good for this
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Old 03-20-2010, 09:50 PM
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If it works it will put you out of business.

Unless you can charge 300 dollars an app for a 5000 sq ft lawn.
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Old 03-21-2010, 02:37 PM
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If it works it will put you out of business.

Unless you can charge 300 dollars an app for a 5000 sq ft lawn.
So what happens when your competition starts to use it, and then another, and then another? Do you then assume everyone will be out of business eventually?
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Old 03-21-2010, 03:28 PM
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I've seen these gimmicks come and go. It won't catch on.

Humans are used to repetition and besides that they don't like change.

Try explaining to your customers you are only going to feed their lawn once a year.

You guys have a hard enough time believing in it....the client never will.

It's a good concept and theory.....and that's where it will remain.


More is better. For institutions and people doing their own? It might be minimaly popular. but it would never make it in the commercial or residential venues on a retail for hire product.

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Old 03-31-2010, 01:25 AM
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I've seen these gimmicks come and go. It won't catch on.

Humans are used to repetition and besides that they don't like change.

Try explaining to your customers you are only going to feed their lawn once a year.

You guys have a hard enough time believing in it....the client never will.

It's a good concept and theory.....and that's where it will remain.


More is better. For institutions and people doing their own? It might be minimaly popular. but it would never make it in the commercial or residential venues on a retail for hire product.

The end.
SeedPro, Youíre correct, Itís not about the efficacy. These products work if theyíre designed correctly for the growing zone where theyíre applied. Itís a question of value and marketing. Grassmanís company is a full maintenance lawn care company. His customers are not going to count how many times he fertilizes to judge the value of his service. They will take a glance every week after he finishes cutting to see how it looks. Is it stripped nice, walks edged, sidewalks blown off, weeds gone and does the lawn have good color. One AP offers the most continues color throughout the year. No more peaks and valleys. You may be a lawn care application company and if you are I understand the objection but we have a lot of LCOs using the One AP product in commercial applications helping them differentiate their business and capture some business they had trouble competing for in the past.
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Old 10-15-2010, 10:25 AM
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I've seen these gimmicks come and go. It won't catch on.

Humans are used to repetition and besides that they don't like change.

Try explaining to your customers you are only going to feed their lawn once a year.

You guys have a hard enough time believing in it....the client never will.

It's a good concept and theory.....and that's where it will remain.


More is better. For institutions and people doing their own? It might be minimaly popular. but it would never make it in the commercial or residential venues on a retail for hire product.

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Reminds me of the PGR debate a dozen years ago where we were all going to be out of a job cutting grass. Then/now there's Buffalo grass and any other grass that doesn't need to be mowed. I remember zoysia plugs as a kid. Only cut your yard 2-3 times a summer (unless it rains like a son-of-a-gun). And lets don't forget the robotic lawnmower !!!! If it does work, great. Personally think that environmental conditions are too varied not to mention soil types to be consistent. Do I think it will change the industry? Not unless the gov't mandates it.
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Old 03-21-2010, 12:28 PM
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i can see you thoughts on that, but i would be more intersted in using the other duration fert they offer which is much cheaper and not for the entire season, just part of it like the last 4 rds. they can vary and custom belnd the length of time you want it to last. it would not put me out of business!! it would make the treatments easier and cheaper to do with only having to concentrate on weeds and insects.
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Old 03-21-2010, 12:29 PM
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i can see however this doing wonders on the yearly pay contracts as it would save tons of labor and materials for those jobs.
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Old 03-21-2010, 01:46 PM
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They way it was explained to me, it should be used on commercial mainly or for customers who pay for the year, that way you don't have to charge a hi fee for that app but don't have to fert again til fall
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