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Old 07-03-2011, 01:23 PM
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Looking for advice on a lawn that has poor drainage.

Good day. I have a lawn where 2/3 of the lawn looks great, excellent drainage. The other 1/2 is turning into a disaster. The grass for now is green, but the soil looks and feels like you're in a swamp. The irrigation system to that section has been turned off. It is extremely muddy and when mowing over, there are tire marks left. Now, there is a drainage pipe that runs under that, WORKS fine no holes. Even after the a week of nice sun, the soil looks dry, a little rain and back to the same old story. Any thoughts/advice would be appreciated. THANKS!!!
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Old 07-03-2011, 08:08 PM
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it's hard to answer that question not seeing the lawn. That part of the lawn is there a low spot maybe there is an underground spring there have any pics?
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Old 07-03-2011, 11:57 PM
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First, thanks for the reply. There is no spring underneath there. We actually confirmed this via the DEC for another reason. No low lying area, there is a pitch to the rear. I'm thinking just POOR drainage, the ground seems really compact.
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Old 07-04-2011, 12:57 AM
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I have an issue like this on one of my properties. After a lot of thinking it turned out it was a very slight low spot (less than 1/2" dip) that made a basin with compacted clay.

I don't know what you're options are but I would check compaction and maybe aerate it. Also check to see if it's a real heavy clay or loam or sandy soil. A light topdressing might fix the problem if it is a slight low spot, keep it from collecting.
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Old 07-05-2011, 10:32 AM
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No low lying area, there is a pitch to the rear. I'm thinking just POOR drainage, the ground seems really compact.
Appropriate section highlighted, given you have eliminated a high water table.

You essentially have a perched water table and irrigation is a bit like adding water to dry mix concrete .... add just a little too much water it turns into soup. Same thing is happening with your soil. The usual recommendation of standard shallow coring/aerating will not cut it in this case. Changing the grade by adding soil won't work either.

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Old 07-05-2011, 11:14 AM
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... Changing the grade by adding soil won't work either.
I don't agree with that idea, in that only the top couple of inches need to be above the 'puddle'...
This OP is not going to correct the soil either, so there is no other option for him...
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Now that I know that clay's texture(platelets) has nothing to do with water infiltration, percolation, or drainage
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Old 07-05-2011, 11:32 AM
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Appropriate section highlighted, given you have eliminated a high water table.

You essentially have a perched water table and irrigation is a bit like adding water to dry mix concrete .... add just a little too much water it turns into soup. Same thing is happening with your soil. The usual recommendation of standard shallow coring/aerating will not cut it in this case. Changing the grade by adding soil won't work either.
What would you suggest?

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I don't agree with that idea, in that only the top couple of inches need to be above the 'puddle'...
This OP is not going to correct the soil either, so there is no other option for him...
When you say this OP is not going to correct the soil, what is needed for correcting the soil? Maybe I will?
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Old 07-05-2011, 12:21 PM
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I don't agree with that idea, in that only the top couple of inches need to be above the 'puddle'...
Doesn't work that way Axe.
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Old 07-04-2011, 08:04 AM
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Most lawns are levelled with skidsters so soil compaction may take years to correct... I would remove a square of sod and dig a narrow hole as if planting a post and see what I run into...

Once you do that, then you'll have ideas about options...
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Old 07-04-2011, 09:50 AM
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I should add that the lawn(which was all fill and topped with sod) was extremely rocky. It almost looked like all rocks. The sod originally took beautifully.
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