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Old 09-07-2011, 09:32 PM
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liquid fertilizer

Can someone help recommend a liquid fertilizer like a 20-0-14? I am spraying 4 acres and need to get the application information to size the spray tips.
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Old 09-07-2011, 10:08 PM
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Liquid fertilizer is useless... get some quick release granules with a good level of Potash(K) and get it down to be used b4 the ground freezes...
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Old 09-08-2011, 12:10 AM
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While I cannot recommend a liquid fert to you, I can tell you they are not useless and depending on what you use and how you use it can give you extremely quick and oustanding results. Maybe smallaxe has never heard of "foliar feed". Typically you will get fast results with not much longevity out of foliar feeds. I think the last thing you will have to worry about is the fert not being used by the time the ground freezes. They are also very handy when the area covered needs a broadcast app of herbicide.(It all can be mixed in the tank together). Try to look up Ant. He has been using liquid ferts most of this season.
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Old 09-08-2011, 07:42 AM
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... Maybe smallaxe has never heard of "foliar feed". Typically you will get fast results with not much longevity out of foliar feeds. ...
Quick results w/out much longevity is the motto of lawn painters, not lawn growers... Get the little lady to smile at the pretty colors, then next week, she can pay to see it again, or let it fade... There is more to the word "Useless" than the meaning of, 'nonfunctional'...

besides, I've never seen the color change with a foliar feeding, so I'm guessing I didn't buy enough to make it happen... maybe I should expect to double or triple the expense of an already overpriced product...
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Old 09-08-2011, 08:14 AM
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Quick results w/out much longevity is the motto of lawn painters, not lawn growers... Get the little lady to smile at the pretty colors, then next week, she can pay to see it again, or let it fade... There is more to the word "Useless" than the meaning of, 'nonfunctional'...

besides, I've never seen the color change with a foliar feeding, so I'm guessing I didn't buy enough to make it happen... maybe I should expect to double or triple the expense of an already overpriced product...
Hopefully green doctor sees this and can enlighten you.
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Old 09-09-2011, 11:53 PM
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Quick results w/out much longevity is the motto of lawn painters, not lawn growers... Get the little lady to smile at the pretty colors, then next week, she can pay to see it again, or let it fade... There is more to the word "Useless" than the meaning of, 'nonfunctional'...

besides, I've never seen the color change with a foliar feeding, so I'm guessing I didn't buy enough to make it happen... maybe I should expect to double or triple the expense of an already overpriced product...
Ummm....you don't get out much, do you? You don't necessarily have to buy some over priced "pre-fab" material. You can buy individual components and create your own custom mix...if you have the proper equipment for mixing and applying. And, you can do it without breaking the bank. You might practice what you preach and "open" your mind to different possibilities. You've got it in your mind that if someone doesn't follow strict organic principles, they're just a "urea slinger" Not true.There are a few that know their sh!t. My comment about longevity has to do with my schedule. every 8 weeks or so. You can get 5-6 weeks easily and longer if N stabilizers are included in your mix.
I don't know everything on this subject but I know enough to know you are offbase. I agree with fl-landscapes, greendoctor should be the one to "school" you. He's much more qualified than I in this area. Talk to him sometime, you might learn something instead of thinking you know everything...
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Ummm....you don't get out much, do you? You don't necessarily have to buy some over priced "pre-fab" material. You can buy individual components and create your own custom mix...if you have the proper equipment for mixing and applying. And, you can do it without breaking the bank. You might practice what you preach and "open" your mind to different possibilities. You've got it in your mind that if someone doesn't follow strict organic principles, they're just a "urea slinger" Not true.There are a few that know their sh!t. My comment about longevity has to do with my schedule. every 8 weeks or so. You can get 5-6 weeks easily and longer if N stabilizers are included in your mix.
I don't know everything on this subject but I know enough to know you are offbase. I agree with fl-landscapes, greendoctor should be the one to "school" you. He's much more qualified than I in this area. Talk to him sometime, you might learn something instead of thinking you know everything...
OK I'll put in N stablizers and love the mix... Wait a minute, spraying is a big pain isn't it? nevermind... I don't care to be schooled in their new advances...
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Old 09-10-2011, 11:20 PM
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While I cannot recommend a liquid fert to you, I can tell you they are not useless and depending on what you use and how you use it can give you extremely quick and oustanding results. Maybe smallaxe has never heard of "foliar feed". Typically you will get fast results with not much longevity out of foliar feeds. I think the last thing you will have to worry about is the fert not being used by the time the ground freezes. They are also very handy when the area covered needs a broadcast app of herbicide.(It all can be mixed in the tank together). Try to look up Ant. He has been using liquid ferts most of this season.
Here are some pictures of a ballfield I maintain with foliar applied fertilizer. This field has received two applications... May and September. It's a 10-20-10 and applied @ 1.7 oz per K. That's 1.9 acres or 83k sqf. 1.1 gallons total per app. The cost? $9.40 per gallon. It will get 1lb of N in a dry app in October and that is all the feeding it gets. I'll foliar feed all day long @ that price and the myth that it does not last is just that... a myth.
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Old 09-11-2011, 12:24 AM
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I have to say that I am totally freakin impressed. I have to ask you a couple of questions though...How are you able to apply at that low of a rate and get an even app(It would have to be some type of controlled mist)? Is that what you have on the front of your mower there? It seems like that would have to be an extremely concentrated mix to give and hold that much color. Do you not cause any burn,tip or otherwise? Last but not least, where do you get a mix that concentrated at such a low price???Do tell.........I am all ears.
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Old 09-11-2011, 07:18 AM
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I have to say that I am totally freakin impressed. I have to ask you a couple of questions though...How are you able to apply at that low of a rate and get an even app(It would have to be some type of controlled mist)? Is that what you have on the front of your mower there? It seems like that would have to be an extremely concentrated mix to give and hold that much color. Do you not cause any burn,tip or otherwise? Last but not least, where do you get a mix that concentrated at such a low price???Do tell.........I am all ears.
Growers Mineral Solution has been around for nearly 60 years, first developed for use in hydroponics and used in the Ag industry for years. My father was a dealer rep for them when we farmed using it on all our crops and pastures. When i started my business i did'nt like the prices i was seeing for dry fertilizers and remembered Growers and went from there.

It must be applied in as fine of mist as possible... thus the shielded sprayer.

It can be applied without the shielded sprayer but we have lots of wind so I prefer to keep it on target.

It can burn if applied @ temps over 80 degrees and low humidity. Ideally you want humidity over 60%.

I use teejet XR100015 tips @ 40psi.

There is no iron or chelates added the only other step I did not mention is Calcium applied @ 10lbs per K in the form of Gypsum or Calcitic Lime.

Foliar applied fertilizers do nothing to amend the soil, so soil fertility is key.

That particular field tested around 3000lbs of Calcium per acre with only 2% available.

I'm a sales rep for them but sell very little because i'm too busy using it. Send me a PM and i'll get you connected.
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