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Old 06-27-2012, 11:50 AM
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convert mulched beds to stone

Hi - I have a customer who has traditional mulched beds (MANY - like 8 large ones - with shrubs, perennials in them) in his yard. He wants me to remove the mulch and change over to stone (river rock or something like it). I'm in the process of bidding this job and wondered if anyone had any useful suggestions? Should I remove all the mulch or just lay fabric and add the stone? Any advice on bidding this properly would be appreciated too.
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:53 AM
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You'll want to let him know that he's going to have to water the shrubs a lot more often. That river rock doesn't hold moisture as well as normal Organic material mulch does and the soil will dry out much faster.
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Old 06-27-2012, 12:17 PM
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Yeah, I am definitely not a fan at all of the stone either. He seems to think (like many people do) that stone is "cheaper" and less labor intensive in the long run - go figure. I'm still going to try to get him to stick with the mulch but he wants this quote ...
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Old 06-27-2012, 12:40 PM
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Big mistake, I hate when they do that.
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Yeah, I am definitely not a fan at all of the stone either. He seems to think (like many people do) that stone is "cheaper" and less labor intensive in the long run - go figure. I'm still going to try to get him to stick with the mulch but he wants this quote ...
You thinking about yourself loosen money if he goes with rock in the Future
Over the years notice with rock beds the plants root deeper vs mulch beds
Myself if customer want low maintance beds Rock is way to go but if the beds are flowers then yes mulch or moss is the key

With Rock beds you run a blower clean the beds vs mulch you cant have to hand pick stuff out
Weeds will grow any

I push rock all the time any more some the mulch out there cost same as rock
Around here that is
might have more install labor vs mulch the first year but in long run in 3 years mulch will cost more
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Old 06-27-2012, 01:44 PM
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Hi - I have a customer who has traditional mulched beds (MANY - like 8 large ones - with shrubs, perennials in them) in his yard. He wants me to remove the mulch and change over to stone (river rock or something like it). I'm in the process of bidding this job and wondered if anyone had any useful suggestions? Should I remove all the mulch or just lay fabric and add the stone? Any advice on bidding this properly would be appreciated too.
Work smarter not harder. If you can do the job without removing the mulch, then power to you.
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:13 PM
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That's what I was really hoping to do! Do you think I should lay fabric over the mulch before adding the stone?
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:18 PM
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That's what I was really hoping to do! Do you think I should lay fabric over the mulch before adding the stone?
Yes, lay the fabric and overlap it. As the mulch decomposes nitrogen fixing weeds like clover and buttercups can grow.
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Old 06-27-2012, 03:08 PM
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I love me some river rock and DG beds provided there is a nice drip system and the right kind of plants in the bed. .
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Old 07-10-2012, 06:45 PM
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I actually just did a job like this, but at an assisted living facility.

The area is 30x80ish - 12 yards is about the average laid done every year.

The area itself is a PITA for weeding, it's all open...3 bushes, but is built on a swamp, so shitton of weeds.

We just put down commercial grade greenhouse fabric (I would use a pond liner the next time) and went overtop the existing mulch (not my decision) and used #1's and #2's on it.

We brought in 6 wine barrells, filled with $250-$300 of annuals and done!

Used about 33 tons of rock. Took 3 men, 1 machine, and 2 tandems 8 hours to complete.

Definitely a job that pays nicely, if they want to pay for it...who cares? Make it worth your wild!
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