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Old 09-11-2012, 12:48 AM
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Fall Clean up pricing?

I been reading lots of posts on here about fall pricing and how to do it.

this guy brad wrote this and it makes sense: ((Say your hourly rate is $60 (for the convenience of that particular number). Property "A" takes 40 minutes to mow during the regular season, so you charge $40 to mow that property weekly. Now that same property "A" takes you two and a half hours to complete a fall clean-up on, so using your $60/hour rate that you normally charge, the price would be $150. Now of course if you have any dump fees associated with disposing of the extra debris, then you will need to add that to your end price.))

if you price it how he describes it above and the customer wants to know a price upfront would you just guesstimate? or do you explain the formula to them

Besides pricing like I heard people do it by charging a premium monthly price from beginning of season to end with spring and fall included. (if someone does this , what would be a good premium price for a house you normally charge 25$x4 = 100$/month be?)

And flat rates (similar to how brad explained) I feel like this is the same formula you just guesstimate how long it would take , correct?

Any other tips would be much appreciated, I am trying to find a simple way to base all my pricing for fall
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:50 AM
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I have a friend who bills his clients at the end of the month for fall, but what if the client expects a much lower price than he received?

just trying to find out a good way to base it off
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Old 09-11-2012, 08:18 PM
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Never give a price by the hour. People will go crazy if the hear $60 to rake leaves.

Does not matter that you use all kinds of power equipment their not going to pay a lawn jocky $60 an hour is their mind set.

This is why you tell then a price for the job.

Also depending two same sized props, one can have a lot of leaves then other no where near.

Figure out what you want to charge. Then be prepared to lose your shirt on it because you did not realize how much work was involved.
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:55 PM
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32vld. You couldn't be more correct. The first fall clean up I did almost made me quit the business. Not knowing what I was doing I quoted this guy $40 per hour which included removal of debris. After two hours he came out and asked me to leave handing me a check for 80 bucks. Looking back I completely understand why he got pissed. Always quote per job.
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Old 09-28-2012, 06:48 PM
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32vld. You couldn't be more correct. The first fall clean up I did almost made me quit the business. Not knowing what I was doing I quoted this guy $40 per hour which included removal of debris. After two hours he came out and asked me to leave handing me a check for 80 bucks. Looking back I completely understand why he got pissed. Always quote per job.
Also if it's by the hour they have the feeling you're milking it to get more hours. The lowest cleanup I have is $125, it takes two guys around 45 min to an hour, and the prices go up from there. Listen to everyone though, leave a little cushion in your price in case the job takes longer than you anticipated.
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:44 AM
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We budget bill our clients. We take our price during standard cutting season + price during fall cleanup + price for off season visits + additional services such as shrubs, chemicals, ect. then add it all together and divide by 12. This gives customers a budget billed price that they are charged year round. This ensures year round cash flow and allows the customer to know exactly what they will pay no matter how long we are there.
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Old 10-01-2012, 11:47 AM
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We budget bill our clients. We take our price during standard cutting season + price during fall cleanup + price for off season visits + additional services such as shrubs, chemicals, ect. then add it all together and divide by 12. This gives customers a budget billed price that they are charged year round. This ensures year round cash flow and allows the customer to know exactly what they will pay no matter how long we are there.
When you do this flat rate monthly billing do you even up with the customer at the end of the year based on actual times mowed/plowed etc. or leave it as a annual contract and they get billed the same now matter what?
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:46 PM
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When you do this flat rate monthly billing do you even up with the customer at the end of the year based on actual times mowed/plowed etc. or leave it as a annual contract and they get billed the same now matter what?
I do this for some clients. I generally don't offer it until I have taken care of their property for at least a few months so I know how long things take and how in depth clean ups might be. So when I offer a flat 12 month agreement price, it's usually based on numbers I already have. And once the initial agreement term has lapsed, I can go back and look at my numbers over that previous 12 months and see if the price needs to be adjusted or not. It's not a perfect science, but it's reliable.
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Old 10-03-2012, 01:35 AM
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When you do this flat rate monthly billing do you even up with the customer at the end of the year based on actual times mowed/plowed etc. or leave it as a annual contract and they get billed the same now matter what?

Leave it as an annual contract and they get billed no matter what. If Your quality is there, most customers won't even think about nit picking you. Just make sure you tell clients up front how many approx visits they will receive each season. I make each client sign contracts that explain exactly what they are getting. This eliminates Grey Area and will prevent most problems.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:56 AM
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Yeah you guess the man hours and then bid but if your not familiar with bidding leaf clean ups be prepared to screw up.

The first clean up I did I told the guy $300. After about 16 man hours I was steaming but happy to just be done. The guy gave me a extra $100 but I still did the job for half price.

Now I tell people the prices start at $225. If they think thats high I dont have to waste a trip to see it. It takes a while to get the hang of it but I can guess within the hour now.

The easiest clean ups are blow in the woods.

I would never bid by the hour either. The client has no way of knowing how long it will take. A lot are surprised on how fast we're out of there and dont care that they forked over $400 for 3 hours of work because they spent hours raking and not even putting a dent in the yard.
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