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Old 10-16-2012, 12:54 AM
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Why do so many LCO's fail?

I often buy lawn stuff from criagslist and its scary to see there is always some guy or guys selling all their equipment trying to get out. Why is that?
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Old 10-16-2012, 12:55 AM
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They think since they can mow grass or dig a hole that they are qualified to own a lawn business. Not just work in one
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Old 10-16-2012, 01:02 AM
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Alot of guys start this type of buisiness because anyone can cut grass. But they start and soon enough realize, they can't afford to run a legitimate buisiness. It takes so much work to make a good living at this and they probaly don't have the actual drive to go find work to keep them busy enough. Plus the winter time makes it even harder to stay in buisiness if you don't save, save, save. Alot of these guys probaly are happy to go back to work for someone after a few months.
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Alot of guys start this type of buisiness because anyone can cut grass. But they start and soon enough realize, they can't afford to run a legitimate buisiness. It takes so much work to make a good living at this and they probaly don't have the actual drive to go find work to keep them busy enough. Plus the winter time makes it even harder to stay in buisiness if you don't save, save, save. Alot of these guys probaly are happy to go back to work for someone after a few months.

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Old 10-20-2012, 10:47 AM
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They think since they can mow grass or dig a hole that they are qualified to own a lawn business. Not just work in one
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Great point. Just about anyone can do the work we're in. Well, landscaping is difficult. But merely cutting grass, trimming shrubs and spread fert is pretty straight forward for the most part.

I think people can get burnt easy, especially if they aren't making the money they originally anticipated. They'll come into this field with a huge expectation but they don't implement the necessary steps to make this happen, they eventually fizzle out.

It takes much more than the capability to run a mower to be successful in this business.
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Old 10-20-2012, 11:13 AM
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A lot of newbies have come into this in the last few years because of the lousy economy and job loss. You don't need a ton of capital to get started but what you need is the customer base which doesn't come the 1st week you pass out flyers. Most of these people don't know the true operating costs even if theyre a solo operation. They end up underbidding which keeps the market low for everyone else making a true living from this. Eventually they fizzle out and can't wait to get a job working for someone else.
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Old 10-16-2012, 01:09 AM
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Because they don't commit to doing what it takes to service their customers come hell or high water. You need to have the postal carrier mentality....Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these LCOs from the swift completion of their appointed rounds. That and they tend to try to compete by having low prices. And most importantly, they don't have a contingency plan and/or cash reserves for when something breaks or when their income stream dries up when the drought dries everything else up. You might be able to run a household paycheck to paycheck if you have a steady job, but you can't run a business that way, because income and expenses are not fixed...they vary.

What would you do if you blew the engine in your Bobcat tomorrow? What if someone T-boned your truck. Would your lawns still get mowed? What if you messed up on your mix and killed 3 lawns and had to wholly replace them all? Or if you fell off a step ladder doing a shrub job and separated your shoulder? It's that type of thing that can put a small operator out of business in a heartbeat.
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:23 AM
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I went to a lawn care seminar put on by a guy out of Ohio named Wayne Volts. There were over 50 companies in the room. He asked " if you have been in business more than five years raise your hand " . To my amazement only two out of fifty had been in business more than five years. The first year the business will not support itself, much less the owner, or worse his family. Each spring I sell the oldest mower I have during income tax time. You would not believe it but every year some fool comes to the house with his wife's income tax check and is gonna be the next big lawn care sensation. Sometimes they even come back in August when its over 100 degrees and try to sell the mower back for whatever I'll give them. I worked a clock job and did lawn care on the side for three years to build my customer base. Then for the next three years I worked a part time job in the winter. Now finally this will be the first winter I am not doing the part time thing.
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:48 PM
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I agree with all of the above, bad management and lack of drive to succeed. I like these guys that say "oh look at that company with all the new equipment." Like it fell out of the sky, it takes A LOT of work to build a business. My wife still yells at me when I leave at 5:30 and get home around 9 some nights. I always tell her it's the price you pay to play the game. Some guys just don't get that.
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why do so many go into the business? alot of people i've known have gone in thinking they were gonna make it rich. i'd rather make less money doing something i love to do everyday, than make more money doing something i hate and live above my means like so many do these days. my point is that i think some have un-realistic expectations and just want to work for themselves and mabee do not realise that it is just as hard as working for "the man".
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