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Old 10-26-2012, 09:56 PM
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Drought Seeding 2012

So I just got rid of My BillyGoat OS900 Hydrostatic SP Overseeder today....because I've seen ,"The Light"!!!

I've overseeded a few yard beginning of October and the results are very impressive!!!!

I will get a few pictures up so everyone can see, but what's worked the best here in Northern IL is to spread new grass seed out of a spreader in the dry, thatch, dead areas of the lawn.

Then spread a new layer of organic compost over the whole yard, laying between 1/4" to 1/2".

Next have the customer water their lawns 20 minutes every other day. Why every other day? With organic compost down on top of the existing yard, the moisture will stay in the ground, dead thatch area, and the new organic compost will keep the seed moist and in two to three weeks new grass!

Using the Ecolawn Compost Spreader has made reseeding super easy and the customer's who have had it done are amazed with how they get this new, deep, green that comes out in their lawns....after a treatment of organic compost.

The BillyGoat was a great machine, but with 11 blades trying to bury the new grass seed into the ground....where some of it gets buried and some of it does not. And the mess of dry thatch that's left in the yard from the slit seeder....it was too much work for "Ok results".

With Ecolawns Compost Spreader, reseeding has become super easy with maximum results!

You can check out My Website: BestRockfordYards.com under "Services" goto "Organic Compost Spreading" and see a video I made of the Ecolawn Compost Spreader. [Note: Its a little over 3 mins long].

The video is put together quickly so I could show customer's what their lawns would look like after spreading organic compost (I will be working on a new videos this winter so I can change My Website up some more ).
And in a day or two I will be able to post some before and after pictures of the yards with new seed and organic compost so you can see some of the results!

If you're wondering what I traded the BillyGoat OS 900 Hydrostatic SP Overseeder for??? I ordered a BillyGoat Force 13 Wheeled Blower and a BillyGoat MV650SPH (Honda) Commercial Vacuum with hose kit....coming next week.
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Old 10-27-2012, 10:03 AM
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With 1/4" - 1/2" of compost covering, there's no reason to slit-seed at all... the seed will do just fine sitting on top of the soil , if you're actually covering with 1/4" -1/2" of compost...
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Old 10-27-2012, 06:44 PM
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Correct Smallaxe!

I have replaced the slit seeding operation with broadcasting seed with a spreader.

Then with My Ecolawn Spreader....lay 1/4" to 1/2" of organic compost on top of the new seed/spread the rest of the organic compost through out the yard....so now the new seed is buried.

And then the customer needs to water or better yet....rain from up above.....and their yards look amazing (within 3 weeks)!!!

You can see where the grass is filling in, and the customer's dead/thatchy area's are now growing new grass and starting to fill in their bare spots.

I will have some pictures up tonight....Before and After Shots.

But long story short....spreading the organic compost on top of new grass seed has given me My Best Results when coming to Reseeding, fixing, or thickening up customer's yards.

And I don't think I will ever use another slit seeder again!!! Their results are too iffy!
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Old 10-27-2012, 09:20 PM
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1st Picture: A typical Northern Illinois Yard after The Drought of 2012

2nd Picture: Broadcast grass seed and lay organic compost over yard and seed

3rd Picture: Three weeks later, customer would water every 2 to 3 days for 20 to 30 minutes each day.

As you can see, the yard is coming in very good! Now I need to post these to My Website!!!!
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Old 10-27-2012, 09:23 PM
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Here's another set of Before and After Pictures: Reseeding with Organic Compost Spreading, same customer.

1st Picture: A typical Northern Illinois Yard after The Drought of 2012

2nd Picture: Broadcast grass seed and lay organic compost over yard and seed

3rd Picture: Three weeks later, customer would water every 2 to 3 days for 20 to 30 minutes each day.

As you can see, the yard is coming in very good! Now I need to post these to My Website!!!!
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Old 10-27-2012, 11:52 PM
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I like the concept. The video looked like a monkey having it's way with a football. Does the spreader have a slower gear? Could you idle back? If you idle back, it will spread heavier and narrower, so you could probably make one pass. If there was a source of compost locally I would love to experiment with topdressing, but to my knowledge none is available. May look into making my own, only problem is that I would have to drive 30 miles 1 way to some of my farm ground to have room to make a pile.
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Old 10-28-2012, 10:11 AM
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You can always tell which people have never put down compost for seeding and the quality of the soil(hence the plants) thereafter...

Profitability is definately simpler with a slit-seeder than bringing out compost and spreading it around... the expense tied to compost is huge for some lawnsand not everyone can come close to affording it...

For Spring seeding, compost over seed would win hands downagainst the slit-seeder... germination under compost in the Spring would be so much faster...

Just a few considerations in regards to seeding methods... it doesn't help to just discount one method/preference over another...
"All or Nothing",,, "One Size Fits All",,,,and "More is Better"... have no place in the thinking of professional horticulturalists...
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Old 10-28-2012, 10:20 AM
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I'm not saying your method won't work. It obviously does and has been done that way since Moses seeded his yard back in Jerusalem.

It's just old school, labor intensive and you're sortof limited in the size of properties you can handle. Kudos for finding machines that make life easier for your method though. I am all for that and do the same thing.

Any excess thatch that comes up is coming up for a reason, and can be spread out with a blower which is what I do, or raked lightly and left in containers at the clients curb.

That is most certainly insect damage Rick. The fact that you have a thatch problem on the lawn or any lawns backs that up too. Chinch and sod webworm target thatchy lawns iMO.

At the end of the day that lawn looks very nice. Good job.
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:57 AM
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Not knocking slig seeders, but compost on seed IMO is just as easy, and has better results than a slit seeder. His is it more labor intensive?

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I'm not saying your method won't work. It obviously does and has been done that way since Moses seeded his yard back in Jerusalem.

It's just old school, labor intensive and you're sortof limited in the size of properties you can handle. Kudos for finding machines that make life easier for your method though. I am all for that and do the same thing.

Any excess thatch that comes up is coming up for a reason, and can be spread out with a blower which is what I do, or raked lightly and left in containers at the clients curb.

That is most certainly insect damage Rick. The fact that you have a thatch problem on the lawn or any lawns backs that up too. Chinch and sod webworm target thatchy lawns iMO.

At the end of the day that lawn looks very nice. Good job.
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Old 10-28-2012, 01:19 PM
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Not knocking slig seeders, but compost on seed IMO is just as easy, and has better results than a slit seeder. His is it more labor intensive?
You don't have to install the topsoil. I could leave my chair right now grab my seeder and five bags of seed and seed an acre and be back in my chair five hours from now and make 3000 to 4000 dollars.

Like I say theres nothing wrong with the soil and seed methods but they are obviously more labor intensive than straight slit seeding.

There are also times where installing topsoil is absolutely necessary. I sub that out.
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