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Old 12-01-2012, 08:58 PM
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Expansion requires boring under road....????

Guys, I've done plenty of boring private driveways, paths, etc, but have never been asked to bore a public street and cross the utility right of way as this job requires.

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The job is for the HOA, which owns land at the entrance and at the outlined circle.

Does anyone recall a similar situation? I plan to contact the water dept and city building dept on Monday to see if a new meter would be the way to go and if its possible, considering expense to get the wires and water there would be pretty high. I'm not sure of regulations that can hinder the boring under a public street like this, and I'm sure there is something. I know there are water, power, sewage, gas, and multiple cable service laterals in the right of way, which further complicate the legality and technique to proceed with quotation.

Any advice is appreciated. Boring subcontract can also be negotiated if you are local and interested.

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Old 12-01-2012, 09:13 PM
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yeahhh that's not going to happen legally. lol

your'e going to have to get a new meter and power supply into the island.
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:04 AM
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yeahhh that's not going to happen legally. lol

your'e going to have to get a new meter and power supply into the island.
Happens all the time Mitch.
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:18 PM
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Get a new tap. Maybe get a deal because it helps beautify the city.
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Old 12-01-2012, 11:02 PM
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Not knowing the lot sizes, why not get a subcontractor to bore from the existing tap directly to the island? Have them put in a 2" sleeve and you can run your 1" supply and wire to it or size it accordingly. It's what I have seen done to those entrances that have multiple islands. The subcontractor should be able to get an idea from various utilities the depth when they call a locate.
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:02 AM
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The subcontractor should be able to get an idea from various utilities the depth when they call a locate.
Aint gonna happen. Locators don't give depth measurements.

What does happen is once located the utilities are potholed with a vac on the responsible parties dime.
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:56 PM
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Aint gonna happen. Locators don't give depth measurements.

What does happen is once located the utilities are potholed with a vac on the responsible parties dime.
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Though this has been settled...

I think Jim would agree I wouldn't bore this without a good utility map from the HOA. Again Jim would know better then me, but I don't think a locator is going to touch that without a utility map...which they will use as a point of reference, but not depend on it.

A horizontal drill will run about $30 a foot. That is just a bench mark. Considering the layout there would be fittings to be made along the way. If in the street your into traffic control. Regardless your in traffic control to stage the boring machine anyway.
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Old 12-08-2012, 11:29 PM
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Though this has been settled...

I think Jim would agree I wouldn't bore this without a good utility map from the HOA. Again Jim would know better then me, but I don't think a locator is going to touch that without a utility map...which they will use as a point of reference, but not depend on it.

A horizontal drill will run about $30 a foot. That is just a bench mark. Considering the layout there would be fittings to be made along the way. If in the street your into traffic control. Regardless your in traffic control to stage the boring machine anyway.
The road has been a good teacher and you an exellent student.
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Old 12-02-2012, 05:44 AM
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Old 12-02-2012, 06:47 PM
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Thanks for the responses guys. I see we're pretty much aiming to get a new meter. Probably instead of paying for power to be included, I'll use a battery operated controller considering there will probably only be 2 zones.

A direct bore would be around 175', any idea of cost for that?
A new meter will be around $1300-1500 + double check valve in this county.
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