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Old 08-16-2013, 09:54 AM
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Question Need advice Bobcat Pro, Pro SE or Big Dog X-1052

Need some advice.

I need to purchase a ZTR for my home/farm in the foothills of NC.

Currently mow 3.5 to 4 acres per week and another 11 acres every other week. Will be planting some of this area next year so will be mowing 3.5 acres per week and 5 every other week.

My neighbor (and good friend) who has a lawn service is having getting older and is starting to focus on smaller yards, so I am going back to mowing this myself.

We have a lot of trees and barns to turn around. Except for one steep power easement slope, most of the area is fairly flat or gently rolling, but some of the fields are are a little bumpy.

Service is important to me so I would like to go with the local dealer who has serviced my 5 chain saws, weed eater, bush eater and push mower for years. Service is incredible but dealer only carries Bobcat, Big Dog and Husquvarna.

Demo'd a 2012 Big Dog X-1052. Was very agile and handled the one steep slope I have very well. However, there was a fair amount of vibration at high speed. At half about 3 to 5 mph, the cut was great. However, at 10 mph I had to mow the grass again because there were some blades missed on the first pass.

Dealer has no Bogcat demos but will let me take any model home and drive it to my heart's content as long as I do not mow with it.

I think I have narrowed it down to a a Big Dog X-1052 or a Bobcat Procat or Procat SE. All are supposed to be true commercial machines and have dual pumps/motors. The non-SE Procat has flat free tires and the upgraded seat/suspension.

Concerns are ability to mow steep slope safely, comfort, and getting a machine that will hold up over time.

Since this is the first time I have even sat on a ztr, I would really appreciate some advice.

Thanks.

True ZTR Novice
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Old 08-16-2013, 10:03 AM
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Been selling Bobcat for 10-12 years now. Really great machines.

Honestly the Procat and Procat SE are very similar. Go with the SE to save some cash or go with the other for extra comfort. Not familiar with Big Dog really so I cannot comment. Honestly have never even seen one of their mowers.

I know you didnt mention them but if you are really wanting comfort you should look into Ferris.

The Bobcat will definitely hold up over time, but if you want to mow at high speeds on terrain that might not be the smoothest even the extra anti vibration stuff isnt going to keep you from bouncing around a bit. Thats where the Ferris suspension comes in.
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Old 08-16-2013, 10:14 AM
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Appreciate the advice. The Bobcat seemed to be a little more heavy duty.

Problem with Ferris is that I would like to stick with my dealer because his service is great.

Do question whether the no flat tires on the non-SE Bobcat will do as well on the slope and worry about marks around trees. Just something I read about.

Also, was pretty commited to going with a Kawasaki engine but am intrigued by the Kohler EFI, have you gotten any feedback on the EFI?

Thanks again!!!
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Old 08-16-2013, 11:06 AM
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I'm not sure about the Bobcat, but some Big Dog mowers have plastic pulleys.

One Big Dog owner (here somewhere) posted that after only his second mowing season with his Big Dog mower, had experienced pulley failure (a broken pulley). I don't recall which Big Dog model he had.




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Old 08-16-2013, 05:15 PM
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Thanks.

Wonder if it was a commercial or home owners model. Do not think the x 1052 has plastic. Thanks.
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Old 08-17-2013, 11:17 AM
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Also, was pretty commited to going with a Kawasaki engine but am intrigued by the Kohler EFI, have you gotten any feedback on the EFI?

Thanks again!!!
Only ever sold one of them and it was years ago. They are showing up on alot of machines. The newer ones are a bit simpler and cheaper. Not cheaper in a bad way just advances in parts and what not. Toro has been using them for a couple years now. They recently showed up on Ferris and Bobcat. And now my latest Wright price list has some available on X models I think.

I really cant say as Kawasaki rules the market here. I might see 1 Kohler for every 100 Kawasakis...

For home use its going to take the fuel savings a long time to catch up to the initial extra 500-1000 for the machine.


As for the no flat tires, you could always swap them out. If you want comfort though you definitely want the seat and anti vibe stuff in the regular Procat I think. Honestly I have not had an SE in so not sure what all is removed. Mostly sell Procats or Fastcat Pros.
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Old 08-19-2013, 04:30 PM
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Thanks.

Thanks for the info. I am going to demo a 2013 bobcat pro 52 with Kaw 26hp to see if the bobcat feels as good on my hill as the slightly lower sitting big dog.

As far as the bobcat SE, I decided that the less comfortable seat and suspension is not worth the savings.
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Old 08-19-2013, 06:25 PM
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Thanks for the info. I am going to demo a 2013 bobcat pro 52 with Kaw 26hp to see if the bobcat feels as good on my hill as the slightly lower sitting big dog.

As far as the bobcat SE, I decided that the less comfortable seat and suspension is not worth the savings.
My dealer has sold in the neighborhood of 300 Bobcats this year, and one of his best sellers is the ProCat. I also believe the Big Dog to be a good mower from what I've seen, don't know where you got the vibration from, but this is not normal. I'm just curious, is there a reason for the 52 over a 60?
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Old 08-16-2013, 05:54 PM
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Why not husqvarna
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Old 08-16-2013, 06:03 PM
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Not familiar with Husq

The dealer also has Husq. I have not researched them but visually, to my amateur eye, they did not look as sturdy. What would be the model for dual pumps/motors, commercial engine in 52 cut?
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