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Old 10-10-2013, 02:35 AM
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Fall already? How do you feel about it?

I'll go a head and say it fall isn't my favorite time of the year in this business, only in part because it slows the time it takes me to cut. What I mean is having to clean up after the cut but not do a full clean up. The other part of it is because it takes a while for the all the leafs to come down. This season I just picked up a new to me truck so I don't really have capital to invest in a high capacity leaf loading system. Fall clean ups just take so long. I should probably ad I am a one man company.
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Old 10-10-2013, 06:13 AM
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Mulch kit. Thank me very much
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Old 10-10-2013, 06:47 AM
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You should be charging for your services. If it takes you longer, Bill for your efforts.
This is why this whole industry is failing. Customers are not paying for what the services are really worth.
It is truly OK to make a profit, otherwise dont do the extra service.
I love the fall, one of the most profitable times of the year for me.
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Old 10-10-2013, 09:13 AM
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You should be charging for your services. If it takes you longer, Bill for your efforts.
This is why this whole industry is failing. Customers are not paying for what the services are really worth.
It is truly OK to make a profit, otherwise dont do the extra service.
I love the fall, one of the most profitable times of the year for me.
Hit it on the head.

You should be getting paid for the extra time spent. Fall cleanups we bill out $80-$100 / man hour compared to 50/mh for mowing. Why? $3000 leaf loader, dump truck, triple the gas, tons more work. etc etc.
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Old 11-02-2013, 06:26 PM
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Hit it on the head.

You should be getting paid for the extra time spent. Fall cleanups we bill out $80-$100 / man hour compared to 50/mh for mowing. Why? $3000 leaf loader, dump truck, triple the gas, tons more work. etc etc.
Could you break this part "Fall cleanups we bill out $80-$100 / man hour compared to 50/mh for mowing. " down to me, I didn't really understand all of it
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Old 11-02-2013, 08:00 PM
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Could you break this part "Fall cleanups we bill out $80-$100 / man hour compared to 50/mh for mowing. " down to me, I didn't really understand all of it

Efficiency. After going out the last few weeks it's more toward the $70 range. Some much more, some little les s. Efficiency is why you buy a 60" ztr, a leaf loader, dump truck, backpack blower etc. Say you charge 50 per mh for a 10k mower. Should you charge the same hourly for one with a 2k bagger, 3k leaf loader, dump truck, $600 blower? Heck no.
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Old 11-02-2013, 10:01 PM
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Efficiency. After going out the last few weeks it's more toward the $70 range. Some much more, some little les s. Efficiency is why you buy a 60" ztr, a leaf loader, dump truck, backpack blower etc. Say you charge 50 per mh for a 10k mower. Should you charge the same hourly for one with a 2k bagger, 3k leaf loader, dump truck, $600 blower? Heck no.
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I see the more elaborate your set up, get compensated for it correct. I just picked up a bagger unit for my mower, tomorrow I will be going to get gator blades I believe adding these two tools to the line up will help a great deal. I have a big yard I'm going to try it out on.
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Old 11-03-2013, 05:25 PM
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You should be charging for your services. If it takes you longer, Bill for your efforts.
This is why this whole industry is failing. Customers are not paying for what the services are really worth.
It is truly OK to make a profit, otherwise dont do the extra service.
I love the fall, one of the most profitable times of the year for me.
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Hit it on the head.

You should be getting paid for the extra time spent. Fall cleanups we bill out $80-$100 / man hour compared to 50/mh for mowing. Why? $3000 leaf loader, dump truck, triple the gas, tons more work. etc etc.

No the both of you only hit your thumb with the hammer.

You are right to charge what you charge because you have the expenses that must be covered. The person you quoted does not have your expensive leaf clean up equipment and can not match your productivity.
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Old 11-03-2013, 07:00 AM
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You should be charging for your services. If it takes you longer, Bill for your efforts.
This is why this whole industry is failing. Customers are not paying for what the services are really worth.
It is truly OK to make a profit, otherwise dont do the extra service.
I love the fall, one of the most profitable times of the year for me.
Good point. I'm still mowing some lawns for what my Dad did in the early nineties. It's getting better but its a slow process.
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Old 11-03-2013, 05:20 PM
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You should be charging for your services. If it takes you longer, Bill for your efforts.
This is why this whole industry is failing. Customers are not paying for what the services are really worth.
It is truly OK to make a profit, otherwise dont do the extra service.
I love the fall, one of the most profitable times of the year for me.
One can not bill 8 hours to do a 4 hour job because you do not have the right equipment.

Because a 60" mower can do 2 acre in 1 hour does not mean the job is worth 4 hours because you use a 20' pusher.
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