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Old 10-25-2013, 12:19 AM
09daxman 09daxman is offline
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leaf blow out issue

Hey there everyone, I have a 2010 john deere 910a and a protera bagging unit on it. I bought the mower with a 2 bag bagging system on it but I needed to get something for the leaf season cause well the bags just filled up way to quickly, so I got a protera HV18 dump from seat hopper. The new HV118 still uses the john deere power flow, and tube to get the clippings into the hopper. Now the issue that im having with it is when ever I cut and bag leafs, a lot of leaves blow out from the right side of the deck and not get sucked up and into the hopper, it did it with the 2 bag system but not nearly as much. I took a video with my gopro to show you whats going on. Any ideas on how I fix it? I can do stripes with my mower which isn't really that big of a deal but when Im trying to suck up the last little bit of leaves in an area it just kinda blows the leaves all over and I have to do a coupe of added passes to clean everything up. Nothing is damaged or missing, and the tube is not getting plugged either. Here is what im talking about. Thanks for your help

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Old 10-25-2013, 12:47 AM
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Hey there everyone, I have a 2010 john deere 910a and a protera bagging unit on it. I bought the mower with a 2 bag bagging system on it but I needed to get something for the leaf season cause well the bags just filled up way to quickly, so I got a protera HV18 dump from seat hopper. The new HV118 still uses the john deere power flow, and tube to get the clippings into the hopper. Now the issue that im having with it is when ever I cut and bag leafs, a lot of leaves blow out from the right side of the deck and not get sucked up and into the hopper, it did it with the 2 bag system but not nearly as much. I took a video with my gopro to show you whats going on. Any ideas on how I fix it? I can do stripes with my mower which isn't really that big of a deal but when Im trying to suck up the last little bit of leaves in an area it just kinda blows the leaves all over and I have to do a coupe of added passes to clean everything up. Nothing is damaged or missing, and the tube is not getting plugged either. Here is what im talking about. Thanks for your help

http://youtu.be/9o6IJ3WZNyk

Try throttling down a bit, to half throttle or so. For me it always seems that when trying to suck up leaves at full throttle, the blades are actually acting like a fan, and blowing the leaves instead of sucking them up.
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Old 10-25-2013, 03:01 PM
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Not familiar with the Deere, but does the baffle under the deck adjust?
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Old 10-25-2013, 03:36 PM
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Not familiar with the Deere, but does the baffle under the deck adjust?
NO.

However, OP, get a set of either OEM medium lifts like those used on the 915B/Z720A or better yet IMO, the wavy mulching blades from your dealer. Not only will you get more into your bagger before it's full, you'll get a LOT less blowout from them.
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Old 10-27-2013, 07:51 PM
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I tried to throttle down but that didn't help out at all.

Ridin green, I will give those blades a try, do they sell they wavy mulching blades for the 910 or do I have to get them from a different machine? Or should I say if I ask my dealer for wavy mulching blades for a 910 will they know what I'm talking about? Haha thanks for your help
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Old 10-27-2013, 08:17 PM
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Many don't have a clue about the wavy mulchers. They'll tell you they don't exist even. They do. Just tell them you want the wavy mulchers that come with the mulch kit for a 910, 920 etc for the same sized deck you have.
I don't have time right now, but you can look up the blade part number on JD parts .com. If you can't find it, post what size deck you have and if I get time later, I'll look it up.
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Old 10-27-2013, 10:10 PM
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^^^^ There isn't a gap between the blower unit and the mower. I checked and made sure that its nice and tight to the mower.

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Many don't have a clue about the wavy mulchers. They'll tell you they don't exist even. They do. Just tell them you want the wavy mulchers that come with the mulch kit for a 910, 920 etc for the same sized deck you have.
I don't have time right now, but you can look up the blade part number on JD parts .com. If you can't find it, post what size deck you have and if I get time later, I'll look it up.
Thanks a lot, I will give them a call and see what they say. I have a 48 inch deck 7 iron, no MOD. With the blades being a mulch type design blade, will the clippings make it over to the right side of the deck to get sucked up? Thanks a lot for your help.
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Old 10-28-2013, 01:46 AM
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^^^^ There isn't a gap between the blower unit and the mower. I checked and made sure that its nice and tight to the mower.



Thanks a lot, I will give them a call and see what they say. I have a 48 inch deck 7 iron, no MOD. With the blades being a mulch type design blade, will the clippings make it over to the right side of the deck to get sucked up? Thanks a lot for your help.
You need M136185 wavy mulcher for a 48" deck

Go here, then click on spindle and blade, then scroll down the parts list to 18 where the various blades are shown. The part # above is the wavy mulcher to ask for. My mulchers have no problem getting everything from the left side of my 60" deck and out the chute across the lawn a long ways when discharging, so you shouldn't have any issue with that.


http://jdpc.deere.com/jdpc/servlet/c...ageServlet_Alt
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Old 10-28-2013, 11:51 PM
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You need M136185 wavy mulcher for a 48" deck

Go here, then click on spindle and blade, then scroll down the parts list to 18 where the various blades are shown. The part # above is the wavy mulcher to ask for. My mulchers have no problem getting everything from the left side of my 60" deck and out the chute across the lawn a long ways when discharging, so you shouldn't have any issue with that.


http://jdpc.deere.com/jdpc/servlet/c...ageServlet_Alt
I went to my dealer today and asked if they had a set of wavy mulching blades for my mower, just to give them a test, they said they had a set so he went and got them and before I bought them I checked to make sure they where the same number that you gave me and sure enough they actually knew what I was talking about. So tomorrow I will get the new blades on and test them out on my yard, see if and how much they make a difference. I will report back.
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Old 10-27-2013, 09:01 PM
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I owned an exmark with bagging unit years ago and had blowout like that. Especially on thin or bare areas of a lawn. I never attempted to fix it. Seemed there was a gap between the side blower and deck. Maybe sealing off the gap would have worked. Could have also been my blades, they were stock high lift.

That's the main reason I switched to a walker mower.
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