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Old 01-14-2014, 12:17 PM
LarryAylward LarryAylward is offline
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Do Golf Course Workers Make Enough Money to Survive?

There are people who work in our country who are poor. We call them the "working poor."

My question to the golf course maintenance industry is: Is the "working poor" an issue in this industry?
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Old 01-31-2014, 09:09 AM
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There are people who work in our country who are poor. We call them the "working poor."

My question to the golf course maintenance industry is: Is the "working poor" an issue in this industry?
Not in Myrtle Beach unless you are a landscaper or super. Courses pay minimum wage to around $9 an hour and don't give raises.
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Old 02-01-2014, 10:36 AM
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Not in Myrtle Beach unless you are a landscaper or super. Courses pay minimum wage to around $9 an hour and don't give raises.
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Did you know that Myrtle Beach SC is the epicenter of low wage's for the entire green industry in the US?
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Old 02-01-2014, 12:27 PM
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Did you know that Myrtle Beach SC is the epicenter of low wage's for the entire green industry in the US?
No but I believe it.

The lawn care side is probably at the bottom as well as far as prices go. Every time you turn around you see a truck pulling a landscaping trailer. If you won't cut someone's yard for $25 they know the next man probably will.

One thing the golf courses do have going for them is there are a lot of retired guys in Myrtle Beach that just want something to do and free golf, they don't care how much you pay them. 80% of our maintenance crew is over 65.
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Old 01-31-2014, 09:46 AM
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Who are the people working on the crews? College kids mostly? Hispanics?
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Old 01-31-2014, 10:23 AM
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Who are the people working on the crews? College kids mostly? Hispanics?
The course I'm at now is mostly retired guys who don't care about a raise, just want something to do. That's not the case everywhere. Another course I worked at had 15-20 guys from college kids to a couple retired guys. I did an internship there and had the opportunity to go through the budget with my super. The highest paid hourly employee was the irrigation tech. He had been there 20 years and was only making $14 an hour. The spray tech had been there for 10 years and was only making $9.50.
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Old 02-03-2014, 02:59 PM
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The course I'm at now is mostly retired guys who don't care about a raise, just want something to do. That's not the case everywhere. Another course I worked at had 15-20 guys from college kids to a couple retired guys. I did an internship there and had the opportunity to go through the budget with my super. The highest paid hourly employee was the irrigation tech. He had been there 20 years and was only making $14 an hour. The spray tech had been there for 10 years and was only making $9.50.
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That's insane, $14 after 20 years? Not the green industry, but I was making almost $14 back in the mid 80's stacking boxes in a warehouse. I have never started someone off at minimum wage and often wondered, based on the hours worked, if my employees weren't making more than me. Seems insulting to pay someone the absolute minimum allowed by law.
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Old 02-12-2014, 08:24 AM
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The course I'm at now is mostly retired guys who don't care about a raise, just want something to do. That's not the case everywhere. Another course I worked at had 15-20 guys from college kids to a couple retired guys. I did an internship there and had the opportunity to go through the budget with my super. The highest paid hourly employee was the irrigation tech. He had been there 20 years and was only making $14 an hour. The spray tech had been there for 10 years and was only making $9.50.
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Lawnshark, I'm interested in interviewing some of these low-paid employees for a story.
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Old 02-12-2014, 11:40 AM
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Lawnshark, I'm interested in interviewing some of these low-paid employees for a story.
They're pretty content with what they're making. If you break down an assisstant's salary to an hourly rate even they aren't making but around $15 hour in this area. Some less considering the hours they put in.

Plus you you have to consider that Irrigation Tech has no education, started out as a laborer making probably $5 an hour in 1990 an worked his way up. Pretty much the same with the spray tech.

I've found that most golf course employees are either retired or people that are simply just comfortable living off $9 an hour. Most all of them still remember the glory days 10-15 years ago when courses were packed all the time and the golf course was a great place to work.

Now nobody gives raises, courses are dropping their insurance, some are even talking about shutting down.
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Old 01-31-2014, 10:30 AM
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I think it depends on the course, I know I wouldn't want a 9$ per hour drug addict driving a 100K tractor on greens that cost 30K each. just saying
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