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Old 02-02-2014, 06:26 PM
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retention + hiring military vets

I don't get it. During the past 5 years, we hired 4 vets.

Air Force (1)

101st Airborne (1)

82nd airborne (1)

Army National Guard (1)

Two of the above were "released early" while the other two "did the basic minimum".

Lord knows if anybody respects this Country & its military, it's us. Even have a son-in-law in the 82nd (Major). Now we have an applicant who served in the 101st -- thinking about hiring him.

The Air Force guy lasted about 1 1/2 years. The rest lasted less than 4 months.

Can anybody figure this out? I sure can't, and we are not hard on the guys compared to other LCO's. Totally weird to me. Any reasons why vets get lazy & don't show up for work?
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Old 02-03-2014, 12:28 AM
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Any reasons why vets get lazy & don't show up for work?
Maybe they're not being challenged enough??? A lot of Veterans are capable and used to handling a lot of responsibility.

Just my thoughts...
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Old 02-03-2014, 01:51 AM
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Maybe they're not being challenged enough??? A lot of Veterans are capable and used to handling a lot of responsibility.

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Pretty much on the money. We vets are always looking to taking bigger challenges.
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Old 02-03-2014, 02:50 AM
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Don't have answer for the original question but I'm a vet and would not consider this kind of work...working for someone else. Owner operator different story.

This kind of begs the question. What is the profile of a good worker in this biz...? My area has a bias that is not pro hispanic. There are a few but not many.

Growing season is 6-8 months here. Snow relocation here is iffy due to nominal snow some years and waiting for a phone to ring. Again another owner operator domain with zero employees.
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Old 02-03-2014, 09:57 AM
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This could be a few problems.

Like mentioned above, a lot of us are extreme type A people. We always want to be challenged and love getting into crazy situations the majority of people don't like. I love being stressed out.

But then there are the other side of vets. The usual NJPers. The troubled ones. Ask them about any courses they took in the military. Ask them if they were NJP'd, and what rank they were. I know in the Marine Corps a 4 year PFC was NJP'd and usually wasn't a typical hard charging Marine. If you know rank structure, you can tell if they excelled or just hung around out of sight out of mind.
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Old 02-04-2014, 12:44 AM
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When I got out the Marine Corps five years ago, I had some major transition issues. I hated the idea of having a boss which is why I started my own LCB. Several of my friends have had the similar issues. I think it is from just being treat like crap. The Air Force guy probably didn't have those issues though because they live the good life.
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Old 02-04-2014, 07:46 AM
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When I got out the Marine Corps five years ago, I had some major transition issues. I hated the idea of having a boss which is why I started my own LCB. Several of my friends have had the similar issues. I think it is from just being treat like crap. The Air Force guy probably didn't have those issues though because they live the good life.
I had a lot of issues too!!! I had many friends who were always getting fired. It takes years to be a "salty" Marine, but only weeks to get out. And once your out, your on your own!!! I learned quickly some of my choices of words were not so welcomed in civilian life

What was your MOS? Maybe we crossed paths, I got out 7 years ago.
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Old 02-04-2014, 11:24 AM
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I had a lot of issues too!!! I had many friends who were always getting fired. It takes years to be a "salty" Marine, but only weeks to get out. And once your out, your on your own!!! I learned quickly some of my choices of words were not so welcomed in civilian life

What was your MOS? Maybe we crossed paths, I got out 7 years ago.
I was an 0811 ( Cannon Cocker) over on N St. in Camp Lejeune.

Your are absolutely right about how civilians can't or won't accept Marine humor. I just had something happen the other day at the crossfit gym. Basically, I wasn't feeling the work out, and had some choice word about what I would rather be doing. The instructor looked like someone just kicked his mom in the face.
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Old 02-04-2014, 02:13 PM
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I was an 0811 ( Cannon Cocker) over on N St. in Camp Lejeune.

Your are absolutely right about how civilians can't or won't accept Marine humor. I just had something happen the other day at the crossfit gym. Basically, I wasn't feeling the work out, and had some choice word about what I would rather be doing. The instructor looked like someone just kicked his mom in the face.
10th Marines???

I was 2/8 Golf co on C st. We used to do patrols over by you guys a lot.

There is no great thing than Marine humor! Whats best is the looks people give you....
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Old 02-05-2014, 06:53 PM
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I was an 0811 ( Cannon Cocker) over on N St. in Camp Lejeune.

Your are absolutely right about how civilians can't or won't accept Marine humor. I just had something happen the other day at the crossfit gym. Basically, I wasn't feeling the work out, and had some choice word about what I would rather be doing. The instructor looked like someone just kicked his mom in the face.
the problem is, and something I had to learn the hard way, It's not about the civilians accepting your way of doing things, or what you think is right. It's never going to happen.... It's about you, coming to grips with your former service and adjusting to civilian life. If you continue to look down at the civilians as lesser, you will never reintegrate...and I've got news... we all are civilians now too.
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