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Old 05-11-2014, 07:11 PM
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Looking for opinions on what to do here. In my mind you rip out the old vertical rail road tie wall. Cut the porch back far enough to allow for drainage behind the new block wall. Repour the patio and go home.
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:14 PM
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:18 PM
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How would you go about putting a SRW wall here DVS?
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:26 PM
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The customers are trying to not cut the front porch but I dont really see any other way to do it
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:08 PM
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Cut it back to that post and maybe just leave it out as a planter, connecting to the one around the front of the stoop.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:56 PM
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Please pardon me, I am so exhausted from the weekend I could close my eyes and be asleep instantly.

Looks challenging!

I have a feeling that something is supporting that porch. Either some sort of perches, or possibly a masonry block wall (underneath).

What I would do is keep things as simple as possible, so I would replace the wood with wood, this way you do not have to saw on the porch. If you saw on the porch you may be cutting into a perch, or something that is supporting the concrete slab. Know what I mean?


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Old 05-11-2014, 08:59 PM
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Fake stone veneer wall like on an outdoor kitchen maybe?

I wouldn't cut the damn porch for that lol
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Old 05-11-2014, 09:16 PM
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Were replacing the rest of the wall with block so i dont see them wanting to go with anything else.
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Old 05-11-2014, 09:48 PM
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Were replacing the rest of the wall with block so i dont see them wanting to go with anything else.
Ok, this is where construction instinct comes into play. Never mind "what THEY want". We all "WANT" things. But we have to be realistic. And as professionals it's our job to know what the heck we're doing and make sound decisions REGARDLESS of what the customer "WANTS". And sometimes this means we risk losing the sale.


The rest of the wall is easy. So lets set that issue aside.

Its the wall by the porch that is challenging. So this wall is going to dictate everything.

#1. As I said, I would not cut this porch. We do a lot of concrete demo work on a weekly basis, you'd be amazed at how that slab is probably supported. You could be opening a can of worms. I would let someone else take the risk and screw up their porch before I take on that liability.

#2. Wood walls is not the end of the world. In this case, a wood wall is going to be far easier than block. Easier = LESS MONEY. Less money = SALE

#3. People want instant gratification. We live in a cell phone app age. The owners probably do not have any idea that something IS supporting THAT slab. They probably thing it's simply sitting on soil. Well - I'm betting there is a 4-8 inch VOID under the slab. So its your job to educate the home owner of potential complications.
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That porch is almost definitely flush behind the ties, remove the ties and leave the concrete exposed or put cultured stone on it. Butt the new block wall up to the front of thr porch.
Or since the blocks wouldnt be retaining anything you could cut them and veneer the side of the concrete wall with it.
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