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Old 11-29-2006, 01:30 PM
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Depends

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OK, here is the real story...

The Briggs engine Z is the XS model...
The EFI is a regular Z.

So here is the deal
'05 Lazer Z
28efi/60
Ultracut

or

'05 Lazer Z XS
BVG 31/60
Ultra cut

Both same price.
Which do you buy?

Thanks for the help
Do you want the smaller mower for your accounts or the larger framed XS. The smaller Lazer would be better for smaller accounts while the XS with it's larger frame would be better in open areas I would think. Less trim with the XS but faster speed.
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:43 PM
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The 31 Briggs will not be offered on the XS for 07. Not sure if we are on the same page or not TLS. First year the 31 has been offered on a regular Lazer so any previous 31 Briggs would have been and XS.[/QUOTE]


Exactly. In the pic thats a 31Briggs Lazer XS 2005
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:44 PM
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Thats how I see it.

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The 31 Briggs will not be offered on the XS for 07. Not sure if we are on the same page or not TLS. First year the 31 has been offered on a regular Lazer so any previous 31 Briggs would have been and XS.

Exactly. In the pic thats a 31Briggs Lazer XS 2005[/QUOTE]
Thats the way I understand it.
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:50 PM
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What is the weight diff. between the two?

How 'bout fuel, is the EFI savings that much over the BVG?
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Old 11-29-2006, 04:48 PM
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What is the weight diff. between the two?

How 'bout fuel, is the EFI savings that much over the BVG?
2005 Lazer Z XS 60" Ultra-Cut deck = 1450lbs

2005 Lazer Z EFI 60" Ultra-Cut deck = 1163lbs

Thats 287lbs difference.

You will have to demo or at least drive both around in a parking lot.

The 31 BVG will feel like a race car. Smooth quick and power out the wazoo.

Not that the 28EFI is a slouch, but the smoothness of the big pumps mated to big cubic inch torque on the XS would really seal the deal for me.

What are you being quoted price wise? Like I said, I don't think they were all that close in price MSRP wise to be offered at the same price.

Don't quote me on this, but it's also likely that the new "speed up kit" would retro fit this XS as well. Making it a 15mph machine.
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:49 PM
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Either machine is $8700 cash or 12mo same as cash.

I am leaning towards the BVG, but I wouldn't mind the fuel economy of the EFI.....

Thanks
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:03 PM
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Either machine is $8700 cash or 12mo same as cash.

I am leaning towards the BVG, but I wouldn't mind the fuel economy of the EFI.....

Thanks
If you need to replace the throttle body,computer,temp sensors,fuel pumps or oxygen sensors you will cry for the briggs.


Can you demo any of theses mowers???


See back in the day all we had was the 25 Kohler or the 26Fi.
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Old 11-29-2006, 08:32 PM
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Go with the XS. If either of the engines were to have issues, I would bet the EFI will sit in the shop longer. I have seen many mechanics talk like sailors when an EFI comes in giving bad codes. Plus the XS has all the upgrades...suspension seat, bigger pumps, etc..
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Old 11-29-2006, 08:34 PM
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I personally would go with the Briggs on the XS. For the same money your getting a lot more machine and i've heard the the Briggs vanguards aren't that bad on fuel considering the power output. I'd definately go that route and also like has already been said their easier and less expensive to work on than an efi.
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Old 11-29-2006, 08:46 PM
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My '03 has a 60" ultra cut on it. It has a 27 hp kohler in it and it's a powerhorse, or at least to me. The cut is nice and it never seems to lose power. It would depend what yards you're using it on, but the gases prices have gone down but who know's how long that would last. Personally, i would do my best to try to get both considering they're ultra cut's because with this triton who know's when there's going to be a decent deck again.

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