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Old 02-10-2007, 11:40 PM
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Nice Flash Templates >> AFFORDABLE

Here is one of several flash template sites I found...

http://www.templaterover.com/flowers-gardening/

Now, you could have the upper left one, for example, for under $60 if I read the page right. Or for about $700, it looks like you could have it exclusively. Some are so nice, I'd be happy to pay the lesser price, even if some other companies somewhere had the same look.

I don't know flash. But I'll bet that any lawn service could pick a template like one of these, and pay a webmaster who knows flash, say, $600 for two days to modify the files in flash, uploaded it to the web and register a domain name. Probably all for like $800.
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Old 02-11-2007, 12:13 AM
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On this site...

http://www.sorbose.com/cat_landscape.html

The nature easy example at the top could easily be adapted for a landscape service. The "clients" section would certainly edit to something else like "tips" or "licensin" etc..

Or...http://http://www.webzonetemplates.c...ape-templates/

I'll may mess with learning flash eventually. It's not a fast load, but its still interesting.
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Old 02-12-2007, 10:41 PM
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If this page links right, I enjoy the circular looking album type...

http://www.unmelted.com/Dynamic_Swish

This is on there too, under some category - slightly landscape looking...

http://www.unmelted.com/flash_templa...ite-12935.html

HERE'S ONE OF THOSE TURNING PAGES TYPES...

http://www.unmelted.com/flash_templa...ite-12244.html

That template site has a lot of examples with style.
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Old 02-13-2007, 09:35 AM
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Some of these templates dont look too bad, if there is anyone that has done it this way please tell us how it went.
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Old 02-14-2007, 12:38 AM
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Flash is nice, but two big downfalls are: your site in MOST cases will not be indexed by search engines, and not everyone has a flash player plugin and there for will not see your site.

They also tend to be to "flashy".

Flash in most cases is best used to acent a site.

html, php, or asp is the way to go.
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Old 02-14-2007, 12:59 AM
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Flash is nice, but two big downfalls are: your site in MOST cases will not be indexed by search engines, and not everyone has a flash player plugin and there for will not see your site.

They also tend to be to "flashy".

Flash in most cases is best used to acent a site.

html, php, or asp is the way to go.
If you have read my page http://www.mdvaden.com/search_engine.shtml - you will realize why I don't think it matters a whole lot whether or not people get indexed by search engines anymore.

Flash does not have any big downfalls.

If people don't have plugins or the right browsers, their own lack is thier own downfall. It reminds me of how business phone lines are tailored to touch-tone these days. Yes, a few people hung-on to their circular dial phones, but that's their choice to hang onto old technology.

Most landscaping HTML sites could have as big of downfalls. But the downfall thing really does not apply to that either.

That's why I'm writing and referring to the "Gold Rush Fever" mentality of a lot of website owners these days.

Most people should just ignore the search engines, and get a website that they like. If 2/3's of the people in thier area have fast internet, they can probably ignore the dialup connection. It's the minority.

So if they want CSS, HTML, or Flash - its up to them. Let them get the site they like and put it on their business cards, ads and flyers, which are their best options to harvest internet traffic. If they focus on a broad advertising campaign, and get a sharp looking site, or informative site, no real downfall stands in their way.

There is no way to tap every facet of the internet.
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Old 02-14-2007, 01:17 AM
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The freedom for me, is that my website is not my life-line. And its Oregon's top website for tree service and landscape design as a combo. It makes money. I actually make about $130 a month off my site (alone). Between advertising, and the commissions from other landscape related services who also get a bunch of business from my site. That's NOT landscaping. I'm talking about "Cyber Cash".

That's nice, but then, I can live without it. I could drop my HTML site in a heartbeat, get Flash and go back to paying for my website each year. And it would be no big deal. WHY? Because I'd enjoy whatever I choose, because it's what I like. And I'd still get a ton of work from any style of site, due to how I display the website on my printed ads, and cards. Its not that search engine results are overated, near as much as the other type of traffic is SEVERLY underated.

It's about learning to enjoy having a website, and not letting the internet dictate what I should have or should not have.
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Old 02-14-2007, 11:32 PM
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If you have read my page http://www.mdvaden.com/search_engine.shtml - you will realize why I don't think it matters a whole lot whether or not people get indexed by search engines anymore.

Flash does not have any big downfalls.

If people don't have plugins or the right browsers, their own lack is thier own downfall. It reminds me of how business phone lines are tailored to touch-tone these days. Yes, a few people hung-on to their circular dial phones, but that's their choice to hang onto old technology.

Most landscaping HTML sites could have as big of downfalls. But the downfall thing really does not apply to that either.

That's why I'm writing and referring to the "Gold Rush Fever" mentality of a lot of website owners these days.

Most people should just ignore the search engines, and get a website that they like. If 2/3's of the people in thier area have fast internet, they can probably ignore the dialup connection. It's the minority.

So if they want CSS, HTML, or Flash - its up to them. Let them get the site they like and put it on their business cards, ads and flyers, which are their best options to harvest internet traffic. If they focus on a broad advertising campaign, and get a sharp looking site, or informative site, no real downfall stands in their way.

There is no way to tap every facet of the internet.
Well I dont really agree with you.

I have built & designed websites for over 9 years.
I will give you a few reasons why you want your site indexed...
Customer cant remember your site name they saw on your truck at 12 noon...its now 10pm and they want to go visit your site... if it was indexed they can miss spell it and most likely still find it. If its not indexed the chances are lower.

While we had a lawn co. we got jobs at least 2-3 times a month that came from search engines. When the customers were asked "How do you hear about us?" they said searched google, msn, yahoo, etc. so if you want to losse out on possible jobs then dont worry about being indexed.

And NO i had not read your page...i did (didnt read every word, way too long) now though and about the main thing i would agree with you about was the "tailgate is more important than the sides"... We own a sign & graphics company (and a pressure cleaning biz. too) and so i know first hand.

This is just my opinion.
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Old 02-15-2007, 01:24 AM
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Well I dont really agree with you.

I have built & designed websites for over 9 years.
I will give you a few reasons why you want your site indexed...
Customer cant remember your site name they saw on your truck at 12 noon...its now 10pm and they want to go visit your site... if it was indexed they can miss spell it and most likely still find it. If its not indexed the chances are lower.

While we had a lawn co. we got jobs at least 2-3 times a month that came from search engines. When the customers were asked "How do you hear about us?" they said searched google, msn, yahoo, etc. so if you want to losse out on possible jobs then dont worry about being indexed.

And NO i had not read your page...i did (didnt read every word, way too long) now though and about the main thing i would agree with you about was the "tailgate is more important than the sides"... We own a sign & graphics company (and a pressure cleaning biz. too) and so i know first hand.

This is just my opinion.

What you are referring to in the one instance, about forgetting a sign on a truck or something, is the exception, not the norm.

As far as the index and search thing...

I've looked for family members, ex-bosses and companies on the internet before and they never had websites - even they were indexed.

So someone doesn't even need a website to get indexed.

One designer I emailed about another site, has this Flash website here...

http://www.illuminatidesign.com

His title diplays, his site is indexed and Google even registers it on the Pagerank. The illuminati.com site owner - a designer - is working along the parameters of sites being enjoyable presentations of the site owners.

Actually, almost any website can be indexed as easy as submitting it to Google.

Also, any Flash site (Flash dominant) can contain one HTML page, perfectly worded and coded according to the jargon of the SEO crowd, and that HTML page should get recognized, unless the SEO pros are wrong about optimizing individual pages.

Thats just one example of how a solution can replace a fear or a concern.
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