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Old 04-06-2009, 11:39 AM
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How comfortable are you climbing palm trees?

Hey, how many of you full-service guys do minor trimming on your customers' palm trees? and how comfortable are you with climbing gaffs? I have a long time customer who has a couple of palms that have dead fronds that are just out of reach with my extension ladder and I am interested in trying to climb the tree with gaffs and harness. I originally thought about buying a longer ladder, but the ladder idea seems way more dangerous than climbing the tree the right way. Any thoughts? Thanks!
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Old 04-06-2009, 12:18 PM
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Tell your customer to call someone else for this job because you're not equipped for it.
Explain that some specialize in this kind of work.

This is what I do.

Why taking a chance to hurt yourself badly?
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Old 04-06-2009, 03:02 PM
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Tell your customer to call someone else for this job because you're not equipped for it.
Explain that some specialize in this kind of work.

This is what I do.

Why taking a chance to hurt yourself badly?
Or be on the hook for replacing palms if the spikes cause problems.
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Old 04-06-2009, 05:15 PM
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Or be on the hook for replacing palms if the spikes cause problems.
What kind of problems do you get from spikes aside from the obvious holes?
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Old 04-06-2009, 06:55 PM
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What kind of problems do you get from spikes aside from the obvious holes?
nothing, they are monocots, and have a vascular system similar to grass. Unlike a regular tree, which has its vascular system in the cambium, directly beneath the bark

I agree that palms are very dangerous. being on spikes and a lanyard, with no rope to escape on poses serious problems if a frond comes down on you. Often times the first frond you cut is supporting many more above that are no longer attached. These will come down, trap you, and suffocate you. The other issues are wildlife in the fronds....rts, spiders snakes, etc etc etc

The other downside to climbing with spikes, versus a rope, is the unsightly holes. nothing major on a coconut, but I would hold you to the boards for a full replacement you did this to my Queen Palm!

Maybe hire a local, qualified, Arborist under the agreement he/she shares their knowledge with you.

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Old 04-06-2009, 10:18 PM
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Thanks for your reply BostonBull. Honestly, I don't want to do any climbing. In Southern California we have guys trolling the neighborhoods looking for work and knocking on doors. Not certified, not licensed, not qualified, and probably not legal. My problem...when my customers know they can pay bottom dollar to a fly-by-night "tree service" how can I align myself with a legit arborist and appeal to the cheapskates? Do you have a lot of gardeners who bring you regular business? and do you welcome their referals? Is there a protocol on how maintenance guys approach a pro with intentions of doing business?

I know that's a lot of questions, I'd appreciate any answers you're willing to share. Thanks for your time.
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Ask Keith Richards about climbing palm trees!
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Old 04-07-2009, 04:38 PM
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Thanks for your reply BostonBull. Honestly, I don't want to do any climbing. In Southern California we have guys trolling the neighborhoods looking for work and knocking on doors. Not certified, not licensed, not qualified, and probably not legal. Show this to your customers and explain to them that you are insured, and qualified. also explain that if someone gets hurt on their property without insurance they can sue the homeowner, LEGALLY!My problem...when my customers know they can pay bottom dollar to a fly-by-night "tree service" how can I align myself with a legit arborist and appeal to the cheapskates? Do you have a lot of gardeners who bring you regular business? Yes, the good ones kow what they are good and what they arent. Pick one thing, and be good at it.and do you welcome their referals?Always! Is there a protocol on how maintenance guys approach a pro with intentions of doing business? scroll through this page. peter is a personal friend and great guy, PMme for more info http://www.arborwell.com/

I know that's a lot of questions, I'd appreciate any answers you're willing to share. Thanks for your time.

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