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Old 05-01-2009, 12:04 PM
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In Florida if you apply every month = 5.76 to 7.2 lbs N per 1,000 per year (with non blended compost).

Doing it this way also gets you to the property monthly to monitor weeds, diseases, and insects. It is win-win-win IMHO.
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Old 05-01-2009, 12:08 PM
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You say compost is exempt in this FL ban. But compost can be cumbersome & extremely time comsuming, depending upon the contractor's equipment & specific job situation.

What about meals? Are they exempt there too?
Meals can be applied relatively quickly, the walks, driveway, etc blown off just like a fert & squirt lawn jockey might do.
If they are labeled as a fertilizer with N and P on the label they cannot be applied during the ban
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Old 05-01-2009, 12:14 PM
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Also...

If you find a post that has 2-2.5% N by dry weight... at my application rate you are still applying .48 to .6 lbs of Nitrogen... if you do that every month... your soil will have the N it needs. If it needs more, add some steroids (meals etc)

To give a better comparison.. at 7 pure compost apps a year that is 3.36 to 4.2 lbs N. Blend some N every now and then and you are sitting healthy...
Sounds like a good bridge program, and you're there every month or so to check the weeds.
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Old 05-01-2009, 12:20 PM
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If they are labeled as a fertilizer with N and P on the label they cannot be applied during the ban
I don't know how it's done in FL, but none of the meals I buy wholesale in Ohio list N, P & K.
The labeling is 100% geared toward feeding livestock.
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Old 05-01-2009, 12:35 PM
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You say compost is exempt in this FL ban. But compost can be cumbersome & extremely time comsuming, depending upon the contractor's equipment & specific job situation.

What about meals? Are they exempt there too?
Meals can be applied relatively quickly, the walks, driveway, etc blown off just like a fert & squirt lawn jockey might do.
its got to have a label if it did not get composted as a ffed stock.........
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Old 05-01-2009, 12:42 PM
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and really, why so much work, the clover I put down on some yards is dead from the heat not and the lawns are in A1 shape, soil and tissue tests are in the high ranges, and the some in some yards is at the 9-14% ranges now. add to that a great crop of shrooms and some tea. shaggy main are great eating and the Ital boys love them, so every day they mow some and put the N in the works so....

and why the hell is every one so hung up on the N any ways, my sod farm has a low N soil for SAG and every one that has seen it is blown away!!!!!!!! oh and we harvested it 3 times this year!!!!! try that...........
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Old 05-01-2009, 12:58 PM
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and why the hell is every one so hung up on the N any ways
Exactly! Time to put an end to the "program" mentality, and start managing based on REAL need, not a perceived one.
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Old 05-01-2009, 01:05 PM
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Exactly! Time to put an end to the "program" mentality, and start managing based on REAL need, not a perceived one.
ok so 2 have woken up from the fert nap..........
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Old 05-01-2009, 02:42 PM
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its got to have a label if it did not get composted as a ffed stock.........
So, you're saying that any meal in FL has to be labeled as a fertilizer if it's not meant to be sold as a feed product?
What a racket!
Glad I'm up here in Buckeye land!
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Old 05-01-2009, 03:03 PM
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So, you're saying that any meal in FL has to be labeled as a fertilizer if it's not meant to be sold as a feed product?
What a racket!
Glad I'm up here in Buckeye land!
No, what they are saying is that if you are billing a customer for a fertilization program, you have to use a state registered fertilizer. For the product to be registered as a fertilizer it must have a label stating the NPK and micronutreints, if any
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