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Old 05-08-2009, 07:14 AM
DeepGreenLawn DeepGreenLawn is offline
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Well.... don't mean to be hard headed, but as we all know, reading and studying something is all good but seeing it first hand really hammers it in.

More of a refresher?
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:11 AM
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where is the chart of kirils?

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It's not my chart, just one I link to that I have seen many times throughout the years.
Ammonium should also have a very small arrow to plant uptake.
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Old 05-08-2009, 04:01 PM
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From the other thread on the same subject;

http://cru.cahe.wsu.edu/CEPublicatio...22/eb1722.html
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Old 05-08-2009, 07:16 PM
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oops sorry wrong thread

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Old 05-08-2009, 10:24 PM
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So composters produce ammonium... From there - nitrifying bacteria turn it into No2- or what might be called.. Nitrites.

Next...

They become Nitrates because of the activity of 'Nitrifying Bacteria' - known as - NO3- ...

From there they are either - asimilated into the plant directly , as NO3- or - the NO3- dissipates into the atmosphere.

Is that a fair assesment of the chart??!?
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Old 05-08-2009, 11:16 PM
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it returns to the atmosphere as N2 a gas, i believe the O is striped off and used and in that process the n is gased off if you will from the organium
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Old 05-08-2009, 11:21 PM
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possibly nitric oxide ? [NO] can gas off too? would make sence but i would think it to be small compared to the N2 being released
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Old 05-10-2009, 07:07 AM
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There doesn't seem to be much explanation in the chart, just that denitrifying bacteria ruin the NO3- and it gets lost to the atmosphere.
Couldn't tell you if there is [NO] gas in the atmosphere.

I wonder how much N2 might get fixed into NH4+ if the air was injected directly into the soil. I remember that injectors were used to inject Nitrogen Gas into the soil. The N gas was 80% by volume.
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Old 05-10-2009, 07:58 AM
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Can I put that graph on my website? I need as much visual information for my customers as possible.
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Old 05-10-2009, 08:32 AM
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Can I put that graph on my website? I need as much visual information for my customers as possible.
Yes, it is public domain as the source of the image is the EPA. I would still cite the source though.
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