Oh don't you like it when your familly thinks you are a failure

[Ducati996]

Originally Posted by Gravel Rat

I have to keep using the cheap rent for now untill I try get things going with what I want to revive.

If I have to pay the 1200 a month rent there will be no way I can even try what I'am doing now.

sure, makes no sense...spend what you dont have, and if you cant afford if you were out on your own, good news...you shouldnt buy it...

now you just fall into the trappings of someone who just ducks the responsibility of growing up....creating an excuse of not being able to go out on your own because of your bills....that you alone created with some B.S reason....

Time to move out of your economically slumped area, and stop being a man/child who need their parents to put a roof over their head.....

Its simple, dont spend what you dont have...things that bad, you certainly cant afford to buy anything...period......your parents should ask you to leave
and have you figure things out for yourself....

[2109 Stang]

Originally Posted by AWJ Services

If GR went and seen some sort of professional counselor can you imagine how traumatic it would be for the Counselor!

Best post so far? don't know but it sure reminded me a a joke ,

After the counselor finished with the kid ,he came out and told the parents ,you should move

move? the parents asked
yes ,move and don't give this sob the new address.

[AWJ Services]

Originally Posted by bobcat_ron

Come to the West Coast and see for yourself, go to the Sunshine Coast, the Gulf Islands, Whistler, Sea to Sky Highway, Fraser Valley, Vancouver Island, I could go on and on, there is some extremely beautiful places here, we aren't called "Beautiful British Columbia" for nothing. My Mom and Dad had guests from Holland that own a private shipping and export company, he takes his wife with him on a huge barge/tug with a full apartment style living quarters on board, and he's been in every shipping lane there is in Europe. He's seen lots of country.
They spent 4 weeks here, and they were floored when they saw the West Coast. Everyone we have ever had the pleasure of putting up in our home for a few weeks is speechless when they see Hell's Gate or the Fraser Canyon in Fall. And that is the just beginning.
They are coming back with the entire family after the Olympics.

So basically, we have higher costs of living and property taxes because of our natural beauty here.

So I guess no one owns Houses up there?

[ksss]

Originally Posted by AWJ Services

So I guess no one owns Houses up there?

We have "natural beauty" here as well. Not all areas like that are expensive to live but some are. Here is what average income people do.........they don't live there. Places like Sun Valley (world class skiing, play ground for rich and famous) Jackson Hole, Wy (same as above). People of average means live outside those areas and drive to said "natural beauty" areas to work if need be.

If you want to, you can find a way out of your parents basement. If you don't want to get out of the basement you will likely continue to create reasons why you can't.

[bobcat_ron]

Originally Posted by AWJ Services

So I guess no one owns Houses up there?

Only if you have 2 jobs, own a grow op, tied to gangs, or you have a spouse with the same income, it is tough to own a house here.
You can buy a $200,000, 1200 square foot house and still have to dump another $100,000 into reno's or buy a newer $300,000++ house and you have to look for one with a legal zoned lower/upper suite te rent out of you can't make the payments, despite what you think of GR's COL (cost of Living) moans and groans, it is tough here for a single person, I am in the same boat, but I don't complain.

[ccstrebe]

Originally Posted by YellowDogSVC

That's a lot of kids! Awesome. I imagine Thansgiving buys out half the supermarket! Any of your kids following your line of work?

We did have them all here this last thanksgiving!

My 25 yr old son has been working full time for me for the last five years. He runs the shop, I run the office, and my three teenage sons will work part time during the summer if I got extra work for them to do.

My 25 year old is in it for the long haul. The three teenage boys don't mind working there for extra cash but I don't know down the road. One of them is really into computer programming and is a math genius. The other two are not looking that far ahead yet.

[AWJ Services]

Originally Posted by bobcat_ron

Only if you have 2 jobs, own a grow op, tied to gangs, or you have a spouse with the same income, it is tough to own a house here.
You can buy a $200,000, 1200 square foot house and still have to dump another $100,000 into reno's or buy a newer $300,000++ house and you have to look for one with a legal zoned lower/upper suite te rent out of you can't make the payments, despite what you think of GR's COL (cost of Living) moans and groans, it is tough here for a single person, I am in the same boat, but I don't complain.

Well someone has to own the houses up there?
A lot to build on in Atlanta was 500k.
Starter homes here where 200k+.
The Average home price in the early 2000 was at least 400k.
The desirable areas will take a Million to get into.

I do not live with my parents?
Heck I pay over a 1200.00 a month just for my Kids school.

[treadlite]

In defense of the members here from BC, it is a difficult place for a person of average income to survive, for several reasons.....
In a lot of ways it's similar to what you see in Hawaii, (without the beaches, babes, great weather etc). Because of the mountainous terrain, land is in short supply, and couple that to a gorgeous coastline on the pacific rim, it attracts the wealthy from china, japan, korea etc and those who do business with those countries. Absentee owners, rich immigrants etc (including many americans) drive the prices of everything upwards. The average schmuck often has a tough time.....
Having said that, the attitude of a lot of people in BC is that the government should take care of them. For many years BC has had very socialistic governments that mollycoddled the populace, and provided government supplied benefits, subsidies, and handouts that you americans would be in awe of. A residual effect of that is seen in guys like GR, that can't come to grips with the fact that life is what you make of it and that hard work and risk taking has its rewards.
For you guys in the states, the harder you work, the better your sucess and the more prosperous you become, and your government (although you might debate it) tends to encourage sucess and stands aside tax-wise in comparison to canada.
In canada, the more you make, the higher your taxes. The medical system that we enjoy comes at the price of increased taxes, user fees, surcharges, provicial taxes, local improvement fees etc etc. We cannot write off the interest on our mortages on our taxes. We have to re-negotiate our mortgage rates every 3-5 years on our property, we don't get the long term mortgages you guys get down south. The lending practices of our banks are much more restrictive for credit here. (Since the recession hit, there hasn't been one bank failure or bailout in canada). All these things makes it more difficult here to be successful. Not impossible, but harder to do. Equipment, parts, fuel are all way higher here.
Take all these factors into account and add to it a crybaby attitude and lack of ambition and no risk tolerance, you can see that some people would rather navel gaze and stagnate.
Others of us bite the bullet and go for it.....

[YellowDogSVC]

Originally Posted by ksss

We have "natural beauty" here as well. Not all areas like that are expensive to live but some are. Here is what average income people do.........they don't live there. Places like Sun Valley (world class skiing, play ground for rich and famous) Jackson Hole, Wy (same as above). People of average means live outside those areas and drive to said "natural beauty" areas to work if need be.

If you want to, you can find a way out of your parents basement. If you don't want to get out of the basement you will likely continue to create reasons why you can't.

We have natural beauty and an explosion in population in this area. The Texas hill country may not have 100' trees but we have lots of them, crystal clear creeks, canyons, and rock formations yet $300000 can get you something awfully nice and possibly a lakefront cabin.

We have celebs moving out here and building ranches. CEO's are retiring here and creating exotic game ranches and this area is known for world class whitetail hunting and exotic Africa style safari hunts yet acreage can be had for $10000 AC on smaller tracts and 2-3k an acre on larger tracts in many areas plus the weather is tolerable!

[punt66]

Originally Posted by YellowDogSVC

We have natural beauty and an explosion in population in this area. The Texas hill country may not have 100' trees but we have lots of them, crystal clear creeks, canyons, and rock formations yet $300000 can get you something awfully nice and possibly a lakefront cabin.

We have celebs moving out here and building ranches. CEO's are retiring here and creating exotic game ranches and this area is known for world class whitetail hunting and exotic Africa style safari hunts yet acreage can be had for $10000 AC on smaller tracts and 2-3k an acre on larger tracts in many areas plus the weather is tolerable!

I am on my way! My house goes on the market Jan 15! Hey Gravel Rat! You got an extra 399k sitting around? I have a nice pad here for you.