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Old 01-24-2010, 04:33 PM
SouthSide Cutter SouthSide Cutter is offline
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Ive had 20-27hp Kohlers never a problem. Friend had a 21 Kaw. blew both heads. Ive got the 29DFI Kaw and I dont know why ANYBODY would need anything other than this mtr. Sips gas and has good power. Just cant see the weight of a diesel or anything above 30hp myself.
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Old 01-24-2010, 10:31 PM
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i love my 21 Kawi power on my ferris make sure u keep up on maint. and you can get hrs out of them i just keep a eye on the valves, and run amsoil with wellworth fuel helper, they run excellent guys dont forget ur additives the ethanol eats up cylinders and they run cooler buy 5-8 degrees. And it restores power and run ngk plugs there worth it champ plugs are junk

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Old 01-25-2010, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by supercuts View Post
was this in response to me?? what i was trying to say is the 20's hp range a different beast. kawi has had huge problems with their big blocks and great luck with their 20's hp series engines. so my comment about everyone chiming in about their 25hp is because they are not comparing apples to apples and had nothing to do with age. some manufacturers have a line of great engines and a line of failures. its like comparing an F350 gas engine to an F350 diesel or a honda mower engine to a honda accord engine.
hahaha sorry long day I went back and read it now and understand. I know what you mean all my ferris walkbehinds have the 23hp kawi on it but never had anything bigger. I have decided to go with the Kawi will probaly pick it up around the first of april. I will be sure to post some pics! Thanks for all the input!
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Old 01-28-2010, 04:27 PM
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Go with the Kawa, just got done dealing with Kohler rep, and of course after a
summer long battle and keeeping records of the oil consumption he decided that it was my fault, go figure. Keep posting all of the horror stories about the Kohlers and maybe after they get enough bad reviews they'll figure that
maybe a little customer service will go a long way. My business was built by word of mouth, it can just as easily tear a company down.
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Old 01-28-2010, 05:18 PM
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My Kohler burns a little oil but I dont get my shorts all knotted up over it. Most Kohlers do. Doesnt make it a terrible engine.
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Old 01-28-2010, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JimQ View Post
Don't let the HP figures fool you. The 31hp Kawi is a lot more engine that the 30 hp Kohler. There is a substantial real-world power difference. The Kawi is the stronger of the two by far. The 30hp Kohler is a 747cc engine while the Kawi is an 852cc engine.


I used the 30hp Kohler on a 66" Lazer Z and it's pretty weak. The 31hp Vanguard that I've used on a 60" Lazer Z XS which would be slightly larger than the 31hp Kawasaki, has tons of power.
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Old 01-28-2010, 09:33 PM
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Any comment on Kohler small XT-7 that is used on the small 21" mower. I know it is boring for you guys!!! This is a China made about 170cc only.
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Old 01-28-2010, 10:05 PM
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Either engine will do fine both reliable and have good parts sources. I would also include the vanguard engines with that group!
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