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Old 02-08-2010, 09:35 AM
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i finaly got a website

my guy just got this back to me last night, theres still a bunch of changes i want to make and pictures to add, last summer i wasn't thinking "website" when they were all taken.
I still have to get listed with the search engines and stuff but here's what we have so far

www.alphaproperty.ca
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Old 02-08-2010, 12:28 PM
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How much did the design cost you? I'm looking at getting one designed right now.
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Old 02-08-2010, 12:46 PM
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Huh, that's a really interesting way to do a site. I never would have thought of making one giant image and using an image map. Looks pretty sharp though.

There are a number of problems with this approach though (which is why people don't do it). One problem is going to be with search engines since they can't read words that are actually an image. Google will think you have an image on your site and no content. It would also be disconcerting for anyone who's used to being able to highlight text as they read to instead see an outline of the image floating around as you drag your mouse. The last problem I can think of is that it loads slowly. I'm on highspeed, and it still feels off compared to a normal page. Anybody still on dialup would give up.

I would pay design fees for this (like I said it looks pretty sharp), but not a chance I'd pay web design fees. You should go back to your buddy and have him remove the text from the image and slice it up then use the images as backgrounds to text he inputs as HTML. For bonus points he can even take repeating images like what's behind the nav menu and use only a very small part of the image which is then repeated. This really only has to be done with the header, footer, and rounded corners on some of the content since simple background colors can be used for most of it. This will all speed up the site (especially after the first page is loaded the rest will be blazing fast since the images will already be in there), and google will actually know what your site is about.

Oh, one more problem is that no one will ever be able to update it or add pages unless they have the original base image (without text), which means only your buddy and only if he doesn't lose the image.

This could well be beyond your buddy, but an even better option would be if the site were in a CMS (content management system) like wordpress, then you'd be able to edit it and add content yourself.

If you (or your buddy) needs a bit more guidance on this I can try to point you in the right direction.
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Old 02-08-2010, 03:06 PM
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thanks for that, i have no idea how this type of stuff work, but i'm going to e-mail him your reply. I use to work with this guy at my old full time job, we have both moved on from where we were and he now does IT work full time, but has said befor that websites wern't his thing. He did it as a little free side project for me, hopefully he knowes how to make these changes
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2005 2500HD GMC Ext Cab Short Box
2000 1500 Z71 Ext Cab Short Box
6ft Aluminum Truck Craft Dump Insert
20x8 Atlas Enclosed Trailer
14x 6.5 Tandem Open Landscaping Trailer
1 2011 Walker 23/48
1 36" Scag Belt Drive Fixed Deck walkbehind
2 21" Toro Super Recylers
1 Blue Bird Lawn Dethatcher
1 Classen 30" core aerator
1 Sthil FS 90R (love the 4-mix)
1 Sthil KM 90R with trimmer, edger, poll pruner and tiller
1 Stihl HS 45
1 Stihl BR429
1 Sthil BG 55 D

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Old 02-08-2010, 05:17 PM
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OMG, there is someone on here that knows something about web sites! The first marketing/web reply that actually makes sense! Thanks Terran, I can quit pulling my hair out after reading most replies.

Alpha, not a bad start and better than a lot I have seen on here but it really has a long way to go design, nav and content wise... Terran does have good points I would just add to really focus on content and usability. Some things that look like they should be links are not or at least not yet and some are thoughts that should go under a main heading.
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Old 02-08-2010, 05:18 PM
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One other thing...sometimes free things can cost you more than you ever know. Having a free site is great but if that site doesn't deliver what does it really cost you?!
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:47 AM
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ok guys, version number 2 is up and posted, www.alphaproperty.ca
Any better?
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2005 2500HD GMC Ext Cab Short Box
2000 1500 Z71 Ext Cab Short Box
6ft Aluminum Truck Craft Dump Insert
20x8 Atlas Enclosed Trailer
14x 6.5 Tandem Open Landscaping Trailer
1 2011 Walker 23/48
1 36" Scag Belt Drive Fixed Deck walkbehind
2 21" Toro Super Recylers
1 Blue Bird Lawn Dethatcher
1 Classen 30" core aerator
1 Sthil FS 90R (love the 4-mix)
1 Sthil KM 90R with trimmer, edger, poll pruner and tiller
1 Stihl HS 45
1 Stihl BR429
1 Sthil BG 55 D

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Old 02-10-2010, 11:10 AM
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Yes better, but still needs work.

Here is some work I have done if it helps to get ideas...

http://www.bueschings.com/index.shtml

http://www.fortwaynerocks.com/
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Old 02-10-2010, 12:22 PM
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Yep, much better. Styling within HTML (rather than an external stylesheet) and using tables for layout is a bit of a dated technique, but it's better than most contractor sites.
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Old 02-11-2010, 04:59 PM
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Another thing you might want to do is have an automatic resize of the page to fit all monitor widths. I have an older monitor (at least for another 2 weeks) and I had to scroll to see the right-most edge of your site.
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