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Old 03-17-2011, 09:07 PM
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Dave you will get nailed derating your trailer. May take a while, might not.
If you plan on gettin your cdl, why take a chanch?? Get the CDL and dont worry about it. The one thing we have going for us around here is we dont see too many DOT guys around here. But with the state needing $$ thats gonna change.....
I will do it the legal way if there is one. Thats what Im trying to figure out here. If I can get a new VIN plate from Cam then I should be good to go.
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Old 03-18-2011, 01:36 PM
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If your truck is registered to a business and has signed ( Commercial vehicle ) and is pulled over you will be jailed and impounded ( no question )

If I load up my sail boat 17000lbs and head off with the wife and kids for some boating no one even looks at me . (Pleasure use)

If you are towing with a none commercial truck you could get away with it once or twice maybe .
The fine on my ticket was $5000 You don't want to go there .
It just is not legal Get the guys there CDL
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were you actually hauling overweight?
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Old 03-19-2011, 01:45 AM
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were you actually hauling overweight?
You know how it is we are always close no matter what , I hate rolling empty .
I was lucky i had my bucket in the back of the truck .
My trailer was at 3100lbs and the EX was 7400. 10,500 but it balanced out to just under 10000lbs on the scale .
The thing is my new rig is still close 11000lb 3300 14000lb trailer .
I have not run over a scale yet to check out the weight on the trailer but it pulls good . John
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Old 03-19-2011, 07:47 AM
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I will do it the legal way if there is one. Thats what Im trying to figure out here. If I can get a new VIN plate from Cam then I should be good to go.
Then why did u buy a 14k trailer? To derate it?? Sounds like a half assed way to do things.
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Old 03-19-2011, 11:24 AM
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You know how it is we are always close no matter what , I hate rolling empty .
I was lucky i had my bucket in the back of the truck .
My trailer was at 3100lbs and the EX was 7400. 10,500 but it balanced out to just under 10000lbs on the scale .
The thing is my new rig is still close 11000lb 3300 14000lb trailer .
I have not run over a scale yet to check out the weight on the trailer but it pulls good . John

So all together was it over 26 in actual weight?
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Old 03-19-2011, 02:11 PM
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So all together was it over 26 in actual weight?
The actual WT has nothing to do with being over WT .
The gvwr of the truck is 16,000
the old trailer was gvwr of 12, 000 = 28000lbs
trailer Registration was for 10,000 lbs ( downgraded ) 16000lb + 10,000 =26000lbs
actual WT of truck trailer and EX was around 20000lbs so now , I was under cdl by 6000lbs .
This is all BS but it is what it is .
Its easy to get a cdl for your truck and trailer once you get your new truck sit down with your drivers and study the the on line test .
I studied for 24hrs in a row and took the test on the 4 day .

You don't need the whole test just the class a trailer , Trailer tie down ,
and pre test inspection , It mite be 80 questions .
You guys can take the test one after the other on the same day .
My guys just read the cdl book and passed the test but they are school smart . I'm not The only problem with having a cdl is all your traffic tickets cost big bucks and there is no tolerance for drinking and driving at all . plus you need a med card from the doctor . John
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Old 06-16-2011, 01:55 PM
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Combined gross GVW over 26k requires a CDL. It doesn't matter what you register it at it's all about what it's tagged at. And yes they do look at the tags.
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Old 06-16-2011, 02:35 PM
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Combined gross GVW over 26k requires a CDL.
Don't you mean GVWR?

Either way. Not necessarily.

Think about what a F550 pulling a 10k trailer would need.
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