Register free!
Search
 
     

Click for Weather
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-27-2011, 10:51 AM
STL Ponds and Waterfalls's Avatar
STL Ponds and Waterfalls STL Ponds and Waterfalls is offline
LawnSite Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: St.louis MO
Posts: 1,175
Getting older

Well I turned 40 today so I've been thinking hard about hanging up the shovel and hiring some labor. Not just because I'm 40, but I'm starting to hurt and breakdown.

When did most of you guy's and gal's decide to quit doing the labor part of your business? Right now I can survive on what I sell and install, but if I have to bring in a few guy's (foreman/laborers) I'll have to sell a lot more work.
__________________
St.louis Ponds and Waterfalls
"We bring life to your backyard"
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-27-2011, 11:24 AM
DVS Hardscaper's Avatar
DVS Hardscaper DVS Hardscaper is online now
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: County Jail
Posts: 5,757
Quote:
Originally Posted by STL Ponds and Waterfalls View Post
Well I turned 40 today so I've been thinking hard about hanging up the shovel and hiring some labor. Not just because I'm 40, but I'm starting to hurt and breakdown.

When did most of you guy's and gal's decide to quit doing the labor part of your business? Right now I can survive on what I sell and install, but if I have to bring in a few guy's (foreman/laborers) I'll have to sell a lot more work.

HAppy Birthday!

Age doesnt dictate working

Lets talk about your physical condition. Overweight? Bean stalk? Smoker? Drinker?

I do very little physical work in the field, although it's been that way for the last 10 years.

I'm gettin older too. But you probably wouldn't know it, I'm very physically active Everybody needs to be physically active.

We do less hardscapes. I don't know the exact percentage, but hardscapes accounts for less than 50% of our revenue for 2011. And I'm totally content with that. The bulk of the work we do is not as physical, mostly all machine work. Along with other good things.
__________________
"It's You vs. You"

"People Throw Rocks At Things That Shine"


My Equipment Brag List:

-1 CAT hat
-16 pairs of Hanes socks (the Heavy Duty model), many with holes.
-12 pairs of underwear, ranging from Joe Boxers to Jockey, many are in need of replacement. (no more photo requests please)
-hundreds of t-shirts. Some w/ grease stains, some torn & tattered.
-7 pairs of jeans, ranging from Levis to Polo to GAP. 1/2 of them have holes in 'em.
-1 belt
-1 pair of old worn out Nike shoes.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-27-2011, 11:47 AM
zedosix's Avatar
zedosix zedosix is offline
LawnSite Silver Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Eastern Ontario
Posts: 2,403
Quote:
Originally Posted by STL Ponds and Waterfalls View Post
Well I turned 40 today so I've been thinking hard about hanging up the shovel and hiring some labor. Not just because I'm 40, but I'm starting to hurt and breakdown.

When did most of you guy's and gal's decide to quit doing the labor part of your business? Right now I can survive on what I sell and install, but if I have to bring in a few guy's (foreman/laborers) I'll have to sell a lot more work.
Happy birthday to a fellow sagitarian. I'm tuning 50 in 3 days and I remember well when I was 40 I was as sore as can be, and was actually considering hanging my shovels up as well. I'd say definetely and without a doubt if you are in good shape that you will have minimum 15 yrs in front of you but its all about getting good employees. Trust me, without them I would not be where I am today.
On another note as dvs said, your physical conditioning (and mental) is of utmost importance. I took up karate 8yrs ago when i went thru a divorce and I'm only stronger both physically and mentally then when I was 40. Hang in there bud.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-27-2011, 11:51 AM
STL Ponds and Waterfalls's Avatar
STL Ponds and Waterfalls STL Ponds and Waterfalls is offline
LawnSite Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: St.louis MO
Posts: 1,175
Well I could be in a lot better shape that's for sure. I've been working in the field for 10 years now come March '12 and about 4 years for an employer before that. I do it all, estimates, orders/invoicing, installs, etc etc. The only thing I don't do is the tractor work. I had this discussion last year but it was for hiring a salesman, but that will be my role I think.

I'm just opening a discussion for the winter time while I look at different avenues for my future.
__________________
St.louis Ponds and Waterfalls
"We bring life to your backyard"
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-27-2011, 12:06 PM
RGM's Avatar
RGM RGM is offline
LawnSite Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Baltimore Md
Posts: 924
I'm fifty and I still do it all and will keep doing it till I can't
__________________

60'' Gravely pro-turn 29 hp
60" Exmark lazar 23 hp
48" Snapper pro walk behind 14 hp kawasaki
21" Lawn boy
echo blower trimmers etc.
2005 Ford ranger v 6 4x4
Go O's
Go Raven's
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-27-2011, 07:00 PM
wurkn with amish's Avatar
wurkn with amish wurkn with amish is offline
LawnSite Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: in the bathroom
Posts: 663
Happy Birthday Keith!
Its hard getting the mindset to let people help you, just do it in baby steps. Hire one guy, then halfway thru the season hire another. Let them do most of the work, same thing the following year til your out. I'm still under 40 so I'm going to stay in the field a little longer.
__________________
nothing but a horse and buggy
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-27-2011, 07:27 PM
DVS Hardscaper's Avatar
DVS Hardscaper DVS Hardscaper is online now
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: County Jail
Posts: 5,757
And with hiring people comes stress. You now have to work harder to make sales as you now have more mouths to feed. And personalities to babysit. Yes, babysit. I find as I'm getting older that I have less patience for contending with some aspects of employee management.

One thing I wanna point out. I've noticed over the years on industry forums that many folks come off as if running a hardscape business is the only way to make a living. It's a lotta hard work for a little bit of money. Just like selling firewood! Sometimes doing hardscapes is just a stepping stone and can lead to bigger and better things


.
Posted via Mobile Device
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-28-2011, 10:06 AM
STL Ponds and Waterfalls's Avatar
STL Ponds and Waterfalls STL Ponds and Waterfalls is offline
LawnSite Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: St.louis MO
Posts: 1,175
Quote:
Originally Posted by zedosix View Post
Happy birthday to a fellow sagitarian. I'm tuning 50 in 3 days and I remember well when I was 40 I was as sore as can be, and was actually considering hanging my shovels up as well. I'd say definetely and without a doubt if you are in good shape that you will have minimum 15 yrs in front of you but its all about getting good employees. Trust me, without them I would not be where I am today.
On another note as dvs said, your physical conditioning (and mental) is of utmost importance. I took up karate 8yrs ago when i went thru a divorce and I'm only stronger both physically and mentally then when I was 40. Hang in there bud.
That's crazy my cousin turns 50 the same day! Trying to find good emplyees is VERY hard. When you do they seem to only stick around for a short while before going on thier own.

Quote:
Originally Posted by RGM View Post
I'm fifty and I still do it all and will keep doing it till I can't
I probably will have to as well.

Quote:
Originally Posted by wurkn with amish View Post
Happy Birthday Keith!
Its hard getting the mindset to let people help you, just do it in baby steps. Hire one guy, then halfway thru the season hire another. Let them do most of the work, same thing the following year til your out. I'm still under 40 so I'm going to stay in the field a little longer.
Thanks Bruce! I'll alway's be in the field for the most part. The help and subs I've used seem to never do it the way you have it set in your mindand can drive you nuts.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DVS Hardscaper View Post
And with hiring people comes stress. You now have to work harder to make sales as you now have more mouths to feed. And personalities to babysit. Yes, babysit. I find as I'm getting older that I have less patience for contending with some aspects of employee management.

One thing I wanna point out. I've noticed over the years on industry forums that many folks come off as if running a hardscape business is the only way to make a living. It's a lotta hard work for a little bit of money. Just like selling firewood! Sometimes doing hardscapes is just a stepping stone and can lead to bigger and better things


.
Posted via Mobile Device
Absolutely right! It is a babysitting game, I feel like I should call all my old boss' and apologize for the crap we pulled. Every year I plan on doing more maintenance to ease my way back to where I started, but I end up slinging more and more boulders/block than maintenance.
__________________
St.louis Ponds and Waterfalls
"We bring life to your backyard"
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1998 - 2012, LawnSite.comô - Moose River Media
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:50 AM.

Page generated in 0.10323 seconds with 9 queries