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Fixture Suggestions - 120V HID In-Grade

I am desgining a retrofit system for the facade of a shopping mall and am looking for recommendations for commercial spec., 120V, HID, in-grade (flush) fixtures.

Currently considering the CO2 and HP2 from BK, and the IG7 from Vision3.

I would like to use either GX10 MR16 MH or T4 MH lamps inside.
As this is a retrofit and some of the fixtures will need to be cored into existing concrete sidewalks, the fixtures will have to be round with no appendages sticking off the sides like the Lumiere Monaco has. Ideally brass, bronze or stainless steel construction.

I have looked at Hydrel, KIM, Vista, Hevilite and HK as options but not found much that will work from them.

If you have any recommendations, please share.
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Old 01-02-2012, 06:01 PM
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I am desgining a retrofit system for the facade of a shopping mall and am looking for recommendations for commercial spec., 120V, HID, in-grade (flush) fixtures.

Currently considering the CO2 and HP2 from BK, and the IG7 from Vision3.

I would like to use either GX10 MR16 MH or T4 MH lamps inside.
As this is a retrofit and some of the fixtures will need to be cored into existing concrete sidewalks, the fixtures will have to be round with no appendages sticking off the sides like the Lumiere
Monaco has. Ideally brass, bronze or stainless steel construction.

Consider most electrical supply house have a landscape lighting designer on hand and would be willing meet you on site. Most often they deal with all brands, (Kim, Hadco, greelee, brk) as all they do is attend conventions/seminars and sell those products. Also look into led lighting. The lights you are referring to ("bellow grade") are know as well lights. Be sure the units you pic have an internal transformer if your swapping out 120 volt fixtures and going 12 volt mr16. Also be careful as sometimes local jurisdictions requires a licensed electrician to do what your attempting to do. Fines can be very ugly!

I have looked at Hydrel, KIM, Vista, Hevilite and HK as options but not found much that will work from them.

If you have any recommendations, please share.
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Thanks for the tips "Electric", I will take them under advisement. *chuckle*
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How much output do you need? Almost everything I have seen leaks over time. The local postoffice had some hydrel fixtures maybe 5 years old and recently took them out and filled in with concrete.

Why not put something fully potted in that is led. There are a bunch of 27watt led 12volt fixtures out there.
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I am just doing the design and spec. for this job. The installation will be done by others. The vertical elements are very tall, at around 40' and there is significant ambient light from street light fixtures, hence the need for the punch of the HID lamps. I only want to use spec. grade, 120V, architectural fixtures on this project that come with full IES photometrics. The line voltage is available and already in the ground nearby.

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