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Old 03-19-2012, 04:45 PM
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But who is growing the Hominidae? Resist I cannot.
One would think the Republican Party and associates by recent rhetoric. I could have resisted but did not.
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Old 03-21-2012, 07:15 PM
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Pick another example. I don't think think Red Thread is a soil borne disease. It certainly isn't spread through the soil.

http://cropsoil.psu.edu/turf/extensi...ses/red-thread
That was a great little read...

I'm thinking now, that to get a basic understanding of what actually changes at the microbrial level, that suddenly gives the pathogen the quorum to take over,,, might have to come from garden or crop research...
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Old 03-22-2012, 08:52 AM
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Susceptible host - Causal Organism - Proper Environmental Conditions. I would venture a guess that that the environmental conditions in the soil is what shifts the balance of power. A lot of warm season turf diseases begin to appear in saturated soils.
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Old 03-22-2012, 09:11 AM
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... I would venture a guess that that the environmental conditions in the soil is what shifts the balance of power. ...
That is exactly what one needs to know, before buying a bunch of organisms that are going to just die, becuz the environment is completely unsuited...
I agree with your observation about 'soaked soils' for certain pathogens, proliferating, but where do they talk about the actual reasons 'why'?...
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Old 03-22-2012, 09:17 AM
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You might see if you can find a plant pathology text book or audit a plant pathology course at a university.
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Old 03-22-2012, 09:24 AM
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Sorry, can't help with the physiology of pathogenic microbes.
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Old 04-07-2012, 09:39 AM
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So, getting back to habitats;

Last week I attended Dr. Elaine Ingham's "The Life of Soil" course at Morris Arboretum in Philly.

Some key points were;
anaerobic soils favor pathogens while aerobic conditions favor beneficial microbes,
adding organic matter decreases compaction and provides food for beneficials,
inoculating soils adds beneficials which will further transform existing soil conditions into habitats which favor beneficial microbes.

The process is extremely more complicated than this, however is fairly simple to implement.
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Old 04-07-2012, 11:01 AM
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Do certain foods(OM) in aerobic soils, do more for specific microbes than for others?

An exa., of what I'm asking is: they claim that starting out a lawn with corn meal will buildup the population of microbes that will then have the capability of digesting soybean meal...

Is it true?: that the variety of beneficials would become greater with a more diverse food...
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:10 PM
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Here's a great source to start learning about the soil food web. It will answer a lot of questions better than I can.

http://www.soils.usda.gov/sqi/concep..._food_web.html
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Old 04-07-2012, 03:40 PM
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In 2001 Ms. Elaine Ingham was a celebrity, fraud. Pertaining to GMO foods.
Grouped in with GreenPeace, The Green Party and David Suzuki and Don Huber.

Any info on how she overcame this title?
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