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Old 05-14-2012, 12:11 PM
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Got quotes for a 460 today.

31hp $10,259 + tax
27hp $9,894 + tax


What do you guys think?
Did you get the fleet pricing? If you spend 12500 you should get 20 percent off. I got my 452 with bagging system for around 10600.
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Old 05-14-2012, 12:12 PM
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So its like getting the bagging system for free.
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Old 05-14-2012, 12:43 PM
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Got quotes for a 460 today.

31hp $10,259 + tax
27hp $9,894 + tax


What do you guys think?
sounds about right. their website says the 400 series starts at $10,949 MSRP. which means the 452 with the 24.5 Kaw is 10,949 (retail price). they go up from there depending on deck and engine size.

add some accessories to that purchase and use the fleet discount and basically get them for free (like GMLC said)

get a chute blocker...they are great!
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Old 05-14-2012, 05:38 PM
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Did you get the fleet pricing? If you spend 12500 you should get 20 percent off. I got my 452 with bagging system for around 10600.
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How much does the bagger run? We dont bag anything so it didnt cross my mind to ask. I can see where it would be useful at certain times like fall to bag up leaves. How much was the bagger for your 452?
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Old 05-14-2012, 05:55 PM
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How much does the bagger run? We dont bag anything so it didnt cross my mind to ask. I can see where it would be useful at certain times like fall to bag up leaves. How much was the bagger for your 452?
Around $2000. But you can get any Gravely products to get you to $12500.
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Old 05-14-2012, 05:55 PM
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I will be honest here. We have never spent over 6500 on a mower. Our $6500 160Z is just as productive and make us just as much money as a 460 will at almost double the price. We have always been ones to go for the lower models because when it comes right down to it the lower models typically

1. Are just as productive
2. Save a lot of money
3. built more than heavy enough to handle commercial residential cutting
4. Have the same decks as the pricier models
5. Tend to be lighter in weight
6. Have less stuff in the way and are easier to service

Our 160Z comes in at less than 1000 pounds and is very easy to work on and has the same deck as the 260 and 460 and has tons of power. Current prices on the 160 is about $7300. So for another $3000 what am I gaining with the 460? The machine is heavier and has a super sweet seat. Realistically that is about what it boils down to so I am having a real hard time trying to convince myself to buy a top dollar machine. Actually I think we are going to end up with a new JD Z720 at $7400. Same thing applies to the JD mowers. The 700 series is the same as the 900 series. even has the same frame. Just has smaller tires, 10cc hydros (which use less engine power and make more torque than larger hydros), standard seat and holds a couple less gallons of fuel. Same frame and same deck and same performance at a considerably cheaper price.

For us it has always been about being productive, doing a good quality job while keeping our overhead as low as possible. We paid $17800 for our 2500HD brand new. We have the pleasure of not having to rent a place to keep the equipment and I am mechanically inclined and do most of the work on the machines myself. Our operating costs are very very minimal compared to most operations. I would love just just pony up and plop down 10K for a mower but for gods sake you can buy a small much more sophisticated car for almost that much. These manufacturers are bending people over if you catch my drift.
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Old 05-14-2012, 06:22 PM
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I will be honest here. We have never spent over 6500 on a mower. Our $6500 160Z is just as productive and make us just as much money as a 460 will at almost double the price. We have always been ones to go for the lower models because when it comes right down to it the lower models typically

1. Are just as productive
2. Save a lot of money
3. built more than heavy enough to handle commercial residential cutting
4. Have the same decks as the pricier models
5. Tend to be lighter in weight
6. Have less stuff in the way and are easier to service

Our 160Z comes in at less than 1000 pounds and is very easy to work on and has the same deck as the 260 and 460 and has tons of power. Current prices on the 160 is about $7300. So for another $3000 what am I gaining with the 460? The machine is heavier and has a super sweet seat. Realistically that is about what it boils down to so I am having a real hard time trying to convince myself to buy a top dollar machine. Actually I think we are going to end up with a new JD Z720 at $7400. Same thing applies to the JD mowers. The 700 series is the same as the 900 series. even has the same frame. Just has smaller tires, 10cc hydros (which use less engine power and make more torque than larger hydros), standard seat and holds a couple less gallons of fuel. Same frame and same deck and same performance at a considerably cheaper price.

For us it has always been about being productive, doing a good quality job while keeping our overhead as low as possible. We paid $17800 for our 2500HD brand new. We have the pleasure of not having to rent a place to keep the equipment and I am mechanically inclined and do most of the work on the machines myself. Our operating costs are very very minimal compared to most operations. I would love just just pony up and plop down 10K for a mower but for gods sake you can buy a small much more sophisticated car for almost that much. These manufacturers are bending people over if you catch my drift.
I know how you feel man. It is alot of money. But the only thing the 160 and 460 have in common is the deck. Everything else is completely different. You need to at least demo the 460 before you make your decision.
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Old 05-14-2012, 10:41 PM
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I know how you feel man. It is alot of money. But the only thing the 160 and 460 have in common is the deck. Everything else is completely different. You need to at least demo the 460 before you make your decision.
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I know they are very different. I guess what I am saying is they both accomplish the same task in a similar time frame and reliability stand point. So why bother spending a lot of extra money on a nicer riding machine when the cheaper one will do the same job? We love our 160Z. It has about 1500 hours on it now which in the commercial world is really not that much. My dads favorite mower to operate is our old 1998 lazer z hp.
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Old 05-15-2012, 12:46 AM
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Pulled the trigger on a 460 last Thursday. Anxious to get it and start playing! Now Richard Petty and I can hang out!
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Old 05-15-2012, 07:11 AM
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Pulled the trigger on a 460 last Thursday. Anxious to get it and start playing! Now Richard Petty and I can hang out!
Congrats! I cant wait for you to put some more time on it and continue your review.
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