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Old 06-22-2012, 10:04 PM
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Yea, but "amendments" has many meanings to different people.
"Compost does a soil good" is a great phrase and you should stick with it.
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Old 06-22-2012, 11:28 PM
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Yea, but "amendments" has many meanings to different people.
Amendments, in the context of my post, means anything that is needed to bring the soil to desirable levels, both mineral and organic, per soil test results.


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"Compost does a soil good" is a great phrase and you should stick with it.
Yes it does do a soil good, and the plants like it too.
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Old 06-23-2012, 09:39 AM
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Yes it does do a soil good, and the plants like it too.
I absolutely agree.
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I would say this much then let it go, Compost is always a part of best practices when incorporated lightly or top dress. I am not sure it called out on a soil test as an amendment.

Just be sure to get a fully cooked compost. It should not be hot or still steaming.
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Old 06-23-2012, 11:48 AM
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I would say this much then let it go, Compost is always a part of best practices when incorporated lightly or top dress. I am not sure it called out on a soil test as an amendment.
HUH? If you are going to till, then incorporating compost to bring your SOM to a specific level is almost always recommended .... and no soil test is complete without a measure of SOM.

I've posted this link many times before, and I will post it again. Regardless of the region, most of the recommendations are widely applicable.

http://www.seattle.gov/util/lawncare/LawnReport.htm
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Old 06-23-2012, 11:52 AM
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HUH? If you are going to till, then incorporating compost to bring your SOM to a specific level is almost always recommended .... and no soil test is complete without a measure of SOM.

I've posted this link many times before, and I will post it again. Regardless of the region, most of the recommendations are widely applicable.

http://www.seattle.gov/util/lawncare/LawnReport.htm
I would agree it is widely accepted. We perhaps even add materials that do not improve SOM but also texture/drainage

OM test are not part of a routine test
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Old 06-23-2012, 11:57 AM
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OM test are not part of a routine test
Perhaps not for you, but I always have the lab test/report SOM.
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Perhaps not for you, but I always have the lab test/report SOM.
I admit that I just follow some guidelines and published by our extention office for our typical soils. I have stated so before.

When I encounter a non-typical soil in our area then I run a full blown test.
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I admit that I just follow some guidelines and published by our extention office for our typical soils. I have stated so before.

When I encounter a non-typical soil in our area then I run a full blown test.
I always start with a full blown test to establish a baseline, then following tests can be more specific depending on the site requirements. I will also run a complete test every 3-4 years outside of more specific tests to ensure all around management goals are being met.
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Old 06-23-2012, 12:38 PM
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There is no harm in that, maybe I am sloppy or make too many assumptions. I know testing is supposed to be the best plan.

I should go collect some photos of the lots I am dealing with.

New homes with 6 to 10 K lots maybe a year or so old. The top soil have been stripped, the clay compacted constuction debris left behind, the yard leveled with construction sand and Bermuda sod tossed on top.

The home owner is not likely to till up the whole yard. The Bermuda is cut weekly, over fertilized and over-watered.

I am going to recommend, aeration and top dressing with compost at close to 1/4" and repeat as often as they can stand.

I am going to start a program with light nitrogen feeds, Primo, micros, humates, super thrive and inoculates. I will check and adjust the irrigation.

If I am to actually till the soil, I Will include neutral pH compost and Expanded shale. The rule of thumb is to use this mix 50/50 with the native soil and till at least 3 to 4 inches deep.
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