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Old 08-02-2012, 01:05 AM
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I'm pretty sure you're allowed 25% of the trailers GVWR, of tongue weight on a gooseneck trailer. That might be a trailer manufacturers recommendation though. Maybe Duffster can chime in on the subject.
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Old 08-02-2012, 06:30 AM
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The rules for this are confusing. I see it two different ways. If you keep your GCVW 26K or below then you are in Non CDL territory. I also have interpreted the law as any trailer 10K or over requires a class A CDL. Its confusing. I have a 14K GVW PJ trailer, I usually pull it with the one ton, but on occasion I will use my HD. I don't tow anything heavy. (I have moved the 5 ton mini with my pickup but I don't like it) My hitch is rated for 9500 lbs. So by my interpretation of the law I can't pull this trailer with my pickup as the hitch is inadequate for the load, even if I only have on 5500 lbs. (trailer weighs 4000) The laws are so confusing and vary from state to state but we are supposed to know them!
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Old 08-02-2012, 08:40 AM
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It's not just state to state. It's officer to officer as well
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Old 08-02-2012, 09:05 AM
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Yeah, isn't that the truth!
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Old 08-02-2012, 09:49 AM
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I live in md. One day earlier this season they pulled every single landscaping truck over on the beltway. They handed out something like 2000 tickets in one day. So no matter what you do there still going to find something
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Old 08-02-2012, 11:17 AM
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I live in md. One day earlier this season they pulled every single landscaping truck over on the beltway. They handed out something like 2000 tickets in one day. So no matter what you do there still going to find something
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It is just another way to raise revenue. But if you ever have anything stolen even a large item like a skid steer, dont expect any help from law enforcement bc they dont give a flip.
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Old 08-02-2012, 07:33 PM
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The rules for this are confusing. I see it two different ways. If you keep your GCVW 26K or below then you are in Non CDL territory. I also have interpreted the law as any trailer 10K or over requires a class A CDL. Its confusing. I have a 14K GVW PJ trailer, I usually pull it with the one ton, but on occasion I will use my HD. I don't tow anything heavy. (I have moved the 5 ton mini with my pickup but I don't like it) My hitch is rated for 9500 lbs. So by my interpretation of the law I can't pull this trailer with my pickup as the hitch is inadequate for the load, even if I only have on 5500 lbs. (trailer weighs 4000) The laws are so confusing and vary from state to state but we are supposed to know them!
not confusing at all.

Class A= GCWR of 26001 or more with a trail with a GVWR of 10,001 or more
Class B= GVWR of 26,001 or more trailer up to GVWR of 10,000

this goes by the sticker on the door of your truck and the rating of the VIN sticker on the trailer.
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not confusing at all.

Class A= GCWR of 26001 or more with a trail with a GVWR of 10,001 or more
Class B= GVWR of 26,001 or more trailer up to GVWR of 10,000

this goes by the sticker on the door of your truck and the rating of the VIN sticker on the trailer.
However, you can have a 26k truck with a 10k trailer and not need a CDL
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Old 08-03-2012, 12:01 AM
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Just get the license and be done with it. I did and haven't looked back and they are only going to be harder to get. I would prob tow a mini that size behind my f550 minimum just my 2 cents
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Old 08-03-2012, 12:18 AM
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Just get your license, then it won't be looming in the back of your head.

The most I've ever been bothered by DOT for is to check and see if I have a current medical card.

Also passing a CDL isn't hard at all. All I did was pick up a book and casually read it for 2 weeks. Pre-trip is the place where testers always try to fail you around here, they are a lot more lenient for the driving portion.

We haul boulders a lot and there really isn't a way to weigh in when you're out in a field picking and loading rocks. Just try your best and you know after awhile how your truck feels driving at legal weight vs. being overweight.

Someone that says they have never been overweight is lying, pure and simple. IMO
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